Neat!
Just thought you might not want to be bombarded ...
Some potentially interesting news: tell you Wednesday.
Meg
> -----Original Message-----
> From: B.H.Sadler [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 11 November 2001 23:31
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [Fwd: 12c drama]
>
> Thanks, Meg, but I'm not so busy as to be un-fascinated by this debate over
> ideas which I believed had a decent burial some years past.
> Two questions:-
> What kind of transmission mechanism is conjectured by those who persist in
> believing that Latin drama, entirely the preserve of collegiate
> ecclesiastical communities, wandered into the streets, becoming the
> property of a compeletly different social constituency, and in a completely
> different language?
> Equally, can mystery plays be tru;ly 'biblical' when no-one within the
> civic structure of the cities from which they emanate had access to a whole
> Bible?
> Clearly churchmen were involved in the writing of the mystery play texts
> which we have (though one should be scrupulous about eliding all the
> surviving cycle drama as if it were the same; it isn't). Equally clearly
> plays on biblical subjects performed on behalf of, by, and for the secular
> populace drew on their experience of the Bible, most of which came to them
> through the experience of worship and was, therefore, liturgical. This has,
> however, no demonstrable connection I know of to so-called 'liturgical
> drama'.
> But finally one other question:-
> Is there one other thriving field of scholarship in literature and drama in
> which work published fifty years ago and more is still being uncritically
> promulgated as canonical?
> Pamela King
>
>
> At 03:28 PM 10/19/01 +0100, you wrote:
> >And 'developed from the church liturgy' doesn't mean the same as 'liturgical
> >plays got up and walked out of the church into the marketplace'. Ask
> Pamela M.
> >King who is engaged in a major study on this. (But don't ask her at this
> >precise moment, she's rather busy running Cumbria.) Meg T.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Clifford Davidson [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> >> Sent: 19 October 2001 14:35
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: [Fwd: 12c drama]
> >>
> >> But still identifying the Towneley plays as "Wakefield plays," which seem
> >> misleading in the light of recent research such as Barbara Palmer's which
> >> identify the collection as a set of plays from the West Riding.
> >>
> >> Some of these things are as hard to eradicate as the popular idea that
> >> Columbus
> >> was the one who discovered the world was not flat.
> >>
> >> Clifford Davidson
> >>
> >> Abigail Ann Young wrote:
> >>
> >> > > Suzanne S Webb wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > As a long-time textbook author (though in a different field), I know
> that
> >> > > the best way to get things changed is to get in touch with the
> >> > > developmental editor for the publishers of the big Brit Lit
> anthologies
> >> > > like Norton and complain, complain, complain and threaten to drop an
> >> > > adoption.
> >> > >
> >> > > The intro to the 2nd Play of the Shepherds in the Longman anthology
> >> > > (which is the one I use for this very reason) is not as offensive as
> the
> >> > > one in Norton. It says in the general intro to medieval lit, "The
> >> > > fifteenth century sees the flowering of the great dramatic "mystery
> >> > > cycles," sets of plays on religious themes produced and in part
> performed
> >> > > by craft guilds of larger towns in the Midlands and North. Included
> here
> >> > > is a brilliant sample, the Second Play of the Shepherds from the
> >> > > Wakefield Plays. Probably written by clerics, these plays are
> nonetheless
> >> > > dense with the preoccupations of contemporary working people and
> enriched
> >> > > by implicit analgies between the lives of their actors and the
> biblical
> >> > > events they portray."
> >> > >
> >> > > In the intro to the 2 Shep, it says, "It [medieval drama] developed
> not
> >> > > from classical drama, which virtually died out in the Middle Ages, but
> >> > > from the church liturgy." The rest of the intro to the play seems to
> be
> >> > > based in large part on Kolve.
> >> > >
> >> > > Sue Webb
> >> > > Texas Woman's University
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Abigail Ann Young (Dr), Associate Editor/Records of Early English Drama/
> >> > Victoria College/ 150 Charles Street W/ Toronto Ontario Canada M5S 1K9
> >> > Phone (416) 585-4504/ FAX (416) 813-4093/ [log in to unmask]
> >> > List-owner of REED-L <http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~reed/reed-l.html>
> >> > <http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~reed/reed.html> REED's home page
> >> > <http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~reed/stage.html> our theatre resource
> page
> >> > <http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~young> my home page
> >
> >
> >
