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But, Bev, when doctors learn that you worked in doctors' offices and hospitals for 25 years, it's almost like they become threatened. No way I could ever know what they know, but yet, I feel a sort of withdrawal. When I worked in hospitals, we nurses' assistants would talk to the doctors and cross ourselves and say, "yes, sir, no sir, anything you say, sir". Now the assistants talk back to the doctors and argue and stalk off and sulk. Not in my day. Anyway, you probably have that helpless look, that entices doctors to talk to you more, whacha bet? Jo Ann ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn