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Judith and Carole, I probably shouldn't be saying anything, but the conditions you describe are why I don't take PD meds. Life is awful with constant tremors, stiffness, bradykinesia and dystonia, fatigue and pain, but exercise helps me the most. However, I hear countless people on meds describing the same things. I know PD meds are lifesavers to most PWP. I'm not happy with the neuros either, but they only have so many meds in their bag of tricks and it seems like everyone takes one to elliminate one thing and something else for side effects, and on and on. We need some decent, more effective meds.OK< I'll shut up. Rayilyn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn