Dear Inkshedders: I also second the term "writing conventions" to suggest the artificial (but learnable) elements that people usually call "grammar." Use of that term might at least lead to questions, and even give us chances to mention Williams, Hartwell, etc. Alas, the original glamour has been lost in popular usage. And I like the idea of an inventory of current writing programs across Canada. As Theresa mentions, I did a study of the use of testing in Ontario universities in 1995 that turned into an account of the types of instruction that universities had developed by then (mostly instead of tests). It's still on the Web at http://www.utoronto.ca/writing/reportw.html. And Henry Hubert did a survey of writing centres across Canada that was published in Inkshed a few years ago -- about 1998?? Is this on the web anywhere? (Henry?) Janice Freeman was thinking of doing some information-gathering this year about writing centres: is that underway? Can we help? And then there's Tania Smith, who knows about us inside and out.... It would be useful for our own self-education as well as for internal politics to see the range of designs that have taken shape in recent years. Some will be the Best Practices our committees periodically want to hear about, others will be interesting or serve as warnings, maybe. I know some fine examples of the intertwining of writing centres, disciplinary courses and writing courses, and look forward to hearing of more shapes and models. Has WAC won? Where is ESL, anyway? Is it and should it be separate from other elements in writing programs? Rob Irish's work at U of T Engineering really is quite amazing, and I'd like to know more about Amanda's at Winnipeg as well as to catch up with SFU and UBC and Alberta and UNB and Memorial. Margaret -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] For the list archives and information about the organization, the annual conference, and publications, go to the Inkshed Web site at http://www.StThomasU.ca/inkshed/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-