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Hi, Charley, sorry I got that wrong. My brother was a Marine and now my great-nephew, his grandson is in boot camp. They didn't educate me. Kind of like calling a cruise ship a boat, I guess. I still recommend the gaballa for comfort. Apologies from me and my Semper Fido Spike ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn