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From: "edith love" <[log in to unmask]>
To: "PIEN" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 8:38 PM
Subject: Some Thoughts About Cause of Death and PD-From Where I Stand


> Every time I get a chance, I try to catch up on posts.  I've carried
Johanna
> in my thoughts since I read about her experiences.  She has courage above
> and beyond anything I could ever manage.  She has an inner strength that
few
> of us can claim.  Talk about standard bearers!
>
> Then I came across Maxine's gentle and most sincere comments about how
> important it is for us to talk about our concerns-get them out.  It's how
we
> learn to  improve our existences.  Whether we agree or disagree, we owe
each
> other the gifts of "listening". and of "answering respectfully".  We need
to
> know the pros and cons of any medication, treatment or surgery we
> contemplate.   We need to look after one another!
>
> There's nothing about PD, PD+ or about being under the PD umbrella that is
> pretty-except tiny miracles that happen once in awhile. Two PWP's fall in
> love.  Longlasting
> friendshis are made.  Great redeeming surgeries are performed!
>
> We need to see both sides of the shadow that lives within us so we can be
> somewhat prepared to make sensible decisions about our care-about what we
> want.  We are  guinea pigs for cure.  Every pill we take is an experiment.
> Every journey won't be smooth and/or successful. Personally, I would
rather
> know the odds!  Discussion is
> essential!
>
> Thinking about Johanna and the need to share our feelings and personal
> experiences were followed
> by, I believe Rita, Carole and others who opened their hearts and shared
> first-hand, heartbreaking memories of final days, nursing home
> fiascos, personal  experiences and death
> certificates.  Nothing is worse than watching a loved one deteriorate and
> disappear!
>
>  Jorge covered the matter of d certificates very well.  While we know the
> truth, d certificates are based upon what is seen at the time of death.
By
> my standards PD & its meds lower the immune system over the years until
the
> body can no longer fight the good fight physically or any other way.  In
the
> end, true to form, before the music comes the d certificate-one of the
last
> vestiges of the "me"(meaning all of us) I(we) came to be.
>
> Then it hit me!  Maybe when all is said and done, we're looking for
DIGNITY!
> For our families, at least in death,
> let  there be dignity and the music of rememberance for closure!
>
> Respectfully submitted,
> E of the headdress
>
>

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