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i thought barb said that nothing we have done has caused u of t's decision janet At 18:00 2002/03/19 -0800, Carole K. Menser wrote: >There is a point in Katie's message. If volume is a problem and slows down >the host's system, perhaps we should all consider what we send through the >list and what we send to individuals privately. At least for the future. > >Carole Menser >PWP Ted (54/46/40) > >-----Original Message----- >From: Janice Morgan <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> >Date: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 7:20 AM >Subject: Re: St. Patrick's Day slip > > >>don't you have better thing to do than to tell people where they goofed you >>sound like a very unhappy person. I guess this should not be on the list >>also, put a smile on your face and just enjoy the list ok. >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <[log in to unmask]> >>To: <[log in to unmask]> >>Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 3:07 PM >>Subject: St. Patrick's Day slip >> >> >>Edith, >> >> Thank you for your St. Patrick's Day message, and for your >subsequent >>posting, sent directly to me, where you have realized, after the fact, that >>your heartfelt St. Patrick's Day message did violate the list guidelines. >>It >>is very easy to break the guidelines because we want personal contact and >we >>want to be a family. Many of us do not even know the quidelines are there, >>and many of us forget about those stuffy, legalistic guidelines. >> >> Look at all the traffic on this list today, and the number of >>postings on the list, not just your posting, which technically or directly >>violate the >>guidelines. And this happens every day. A percentage of people on the list >>has always favored listing everything and using the delete button whereas a >>percentage, which includes me (a legally trained person) has always favored >>compliance with the guidelines. I tried to alert people to the problem that >>if, we were slowing down the UT system, our volume was too big, e.g. >>non-compliance with the >>guidelines was a problem. If our postings are monitored by the UT or >>elsewhere, how can that academic institution justify providing services for >>personal messages, poetry, humor pieces/jokes, etc? I assume that Barbara >P >>convinced UT to accept UT as an information exchange system and not a chat >>room. Any new place will check with UT, and even the "slowness" factor, >>without any indication of concern about list content, will be a problem. I >>also assume that the UT has had rumblings about withdrawing services for >>some >>time, and those rumblings were ignored and/or the options at UT, and >>possiblity of the options of the list continuing to stay there, have not >>been >>fully explored. I would like to know if the withdrawal of services by the >>UT >>is a done deal; even if UT thinks it's a done deal there are things we can >>do >>to make it not a done deal. We should, at a minimum, be able to stay with >>UT >>until we find a replacement host. >> >> I was surprised by your posting, but I do think that St. Patrick's >>Day ought to be celebrated and that the guidelines can be bent, or ignored, >>at times. However, we are in a real mess, and I think that the list is in >>real danger. It will take a long time to get something set up at a new >>place, even if everything goes well, and any experience we have had with UT >>will impact upon negotiations with any potential host for the list. I hope >>list members become very careful about their postings in this interim >period >>before we find a new home: this can be helpful in convincing UT to keep us >>as >>well as convincing a new university to take us. What I said about the >>guidelines before on this list was an interesting, legal-like argument to >>me, >>but probably not interesting to anyone else on the list, but now concern >>with >>the list guidelines and careful compliance with the guidelines may be the >>survival of this list and its family. >> >> Edith, your St. Patrick's Day message was an unintentional slip. I >>am >>certain we all loved receiving and reading it. Happy St. Patrick's Day to >>you! Katie >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >mailto:[log in to unmask] >>In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >mailto:[log in to unmask] >>In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] >In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > janet paterson: an akinetic rigid subtype, albeit perky, parky pd: 55/41/37 cd: 55/44/43 tel: 613 256 8340 email: [log in to unmask] smail: 375 Country Street, Almonte, Ontario, Canada, K0A 1A0 a new voice: http://www.geocities.com/janet313/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn