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There is a point in Katie's message. If volume is a problem and slows down the host's system, perhaps we should all consider what we send through the list and what we send to individuals privately. At least for the future. Carole Menser PWP Ted (54/46/40) -----Original Message----- From: Janice Morgan <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 7:20 AM Subject: Re: St. Patrick's Day slip >don't you have better thing to do than to tell people where they goofed you >sound like a very unhappy person. I guess this should not be on the list >also, put a smile on your face and just enjoy the list ok. >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[log in to unmask]> >To: <[log in to unmask]> >Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 3:07 PM >Subject: St. Patrick's Day slip > > >Edith, > > Thank you for your St. Patrick's Day message, and for your subsequent >posting, sent directly to me, where you have realized, after the fact, that >your heartfelt St. Patrick's Day message did violate the list guidelines. >It >is very easy to break the guidelines because we want personal contact and we >want to be a family. Many of us do not even know the quidelines are there, >and many of us forget about those stuffy, legalistic guidelines. > > Look at all the traffic on this list today, and the number of >postings on the list, not just your posting, which technically or directly >violate the >guidelines. And this happens every day. A percentage of people on the list >has always favored listing everything and using the delete button whereas a >percentage, which includes me (a legally trained person) has always favored >compliance with the guidelines. I tried to alert people to the problem that >if, we were slowing down the UT system, our volume was too big, e.g. >non-compliance with the >guidelines was a problem. If our postings are monitored by the UT or >elsewhere, how can that academic institution justify providing services for >personal messages, poetry, humor pieces/jokes, etc? I assume that Barbara P >convinced UT to accept UT as an information exchange system and not a chat >room. Any new place will check with UT, and even the "slowness" factor, >without any indication of concern about list content, will be a problem. I >also assume that the UT has had rumblings about withdrawing services for >some >time, and those rumblings were ignored and/or the options at UT, and >possiblity of the options of the list continuing to stay there, have not >been >fully explored. I would like to know if the withdrawal of services by the >UT >is a done deal; even if UT thinks it's a done deal there are things we can >do >to make it not a done deal. We should, at a minimum, be able to stay with >UT >until we find a replacement host. > > I was surprised by your posting, but I do think that St. Patrick's >Day ought to be celebrated and that the guidelines can be bent, or ignored, >at times. However, we are in a real mess, and I think that the list is in >real danger. It will take a long time to get something set up at a new >place, even if everything goes well, and any experience we have had with UT >will impact upon negotiations with any potential host for the list. I hope >list members become very careful about their postings in this interim period >before we find a new home: this can be helpful in convincing UT to keep us >as >well as convincing a new university to take us. What I said about the >guidelines before on this list was an interesting, legal-like argument to >me, >but probably not interesting to anyone else on the list, but now concern >with >the list guidelines and careful compliance with the guidelines may be the >survival of this list and its family. > > Edith, your St. Patrick's Day message was an unintentional slip. I >am >certain we all loved receiving and reading it. Happy St. Patrick's Day to >you! Katie > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] >In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] >In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn