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Then why the decision? Carole -----Original Message----- From: janet paterson <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 7:28 PM Subject: Re: St. Patrick's Day slip >i thought barb said that nothing we have done >has caused u of t's decision > >janet > >At 18:00 2002/03/19 -0800, Carole K. Menser wrote: >>There is a point in Katie's message. If volume is a problem and slows down >>the host's system, perhaps we should all consider what we send through the >>list and what we send to individuals privately. At least for the future. >> >>Carole Menser >>PWP Ted (54/46/40) >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Janice Morgan <[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> >>Date: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 7:20 AM >>Subject: Re: St. Patrick's Day slip >> >> >>>don't you have better thing to do than to tell people where they goofed you >>>sound like a very unhappy person. I guess this should not be on the list >>>also, put a smile on your face and just enjoy the list ok. >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: <[log in to unmask]> >>>To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 3:07 PM >>>Subject: St. Patrick's Day slip >>> >>> >>>Edith, >>> >>> Thank you for your St. Patrick's Day message, and for your >>subsequent >>>posting, sent directly to me, where you have realized, after the fact, that >>>your heartfelt St. Patrick's Day message did violate the list guidelines. >>>It >>>is very easy to break the guidelines because we want personal contact and >>we >>>want to be a family. Many of us do not even know the quidelines are there, >>>and many of us forget about those stuffy, legalistic guidelines. >>> >>> Look at all the traffic on this list today, and the number of >>>postings on the list, not just your posting, which technically or directly >>>violate the >>>guidelines. And this happens every day. A percentage of people on the list >>>has always favored listing everything and using the delete button whereas a >>>percentage, which includes me (a legally trained person) has always favored >>>compliance with the guidelines. I tried to alert people to the problem that >>>if, we were slowing down the UT system, our volume was too big, e.g. >>>non-compliance with the >>>guidelines was a problem. If our postings are monitored by the UT or >>>elsewhere, how can that academic institution justify providing services for >>>personal messages, poetry, humor pieces/jokes, etc? I assume that Barbara >>P >>>convinced UT to accept UT as an information exchange system and not a chat >>>room. Any new place will check with UT, and even the "slowness" factor, >>>without any indication of concern about list content, will be a problem. I >>>also assume that the UT has had rumblings about withdrawing services for >>>some >>>time, and those rumblings were ignored and/or the options at UT, and >>>possiblity of the options of the list continuing to stay there, have not >>>been >>>fully explored. I would like to know if the withdrawal of services by the >>>UT >>>is a done deal; even if UT thinks it's a done deal there are things we can >>>do >>>to make it not a done deal. We should, at a minimum, be able to stay with >>>UT >>>until we find a replacement host. >>> >>> I was surprised by your posting, but I do think that St. Patrick's >>>Day ought to be celebrated and that the guidelines can be bent, or ignored, >>>at times. However, we are in a real mess, and I think that the list is in >>>real danger. It will take a long time to get something set up at a new >>>place, even if everything goes well, and any experience we have had with UT >>>will impact upon negotiations with any potential host for the list. I hope >>>list members become very careful about their postings in this interim >>period >>>before we find a new home: this can be helpful in convincing UT to keep us >>>as >>>well as convincing a new university to take us. What I said about the >>>guidelines before on this list was an interesting, legal-like argument to >>>me, >>>but probably not interesting to anyone else on the list, but now concern >>>with >>>the list guidelines and careful compliance with the guidelines may be the >>>survival of this list and its family. >>> >>> Edith, your St. Patrick's Day message was an unintentional slip. I >>>am >>>certain we all loved receiving and reading it. Happy St. Patrick's Day to >>>you! Katie >>> >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >>mailto:[log in to unmask] >>>In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >>> >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >>mailto:[log in to unmask] >>>In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >>> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] >>In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> >janet paterson: an akinetic rigid subtype, albeit perky, parky >pd: 55/41/37 cd: 55/44/43 tel: 613 256 8340 email: [log in to unmask] >smail: 375 Country Street, Almonte, Ontario, Canada, K0A 1A0 >a new voice: http://www.geocities.com/janet313/ > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] >In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn