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Dear Don, I'm taking the liberty of sending this to PIEN, too, so I don't have to write another like it. I speak for myself and Katie doesn't need any defending. However, in all sincerity, I think you've got it wrong. Most important is the fact that Katie loves this list as much as I do. Both of us are attempting to face the reality that some changes might have to occur to keep PIEN going. PIEN has GUIDELINES which supply the basic rules and regulations that enable it to exist. The GUIDELINES delineate the parameters of content including our responsibility to the UofT, our sponsor, Ms Norris, to the list owners, John and Barb. These GUIDELINES even remind us that we have a responsibility to one another regarding the behaviour, attitude and respect we demonstrate toward one another. We are professionals in our own fields. The GUIDELINES assist us in maintaining our professionalism as part of the PIEN family. They are meant as a protection as well as a guide. These GUIDELINES were GIVEN to us when we initially became part of the PIEN family. We ALL agreed to accept them as an extremely important part of our membership. In my way of thinking, all Katie was/is trying to point out is that, by consistently abiding by the PIEN GUIDELINES as set by John & Barbara, we are not only demonstrating our professionalism, we are exemplifying our sincerest dedication to an organization that has become home to so many. Perhaps what has been missing here is a periodic "reminder" reprinting of the GUIDELINES. Basics are easy to forget! Share with me, Don, the beauty of what NOW makes PIEN a site to behold! It isn't the inclusion of what the GUIDELINES says it should not be. It is what the GUIDELINES say PIEN can be! AND WE ALL MADE IT HAPPEN with common, everyday honesty, sincerity, warmth and caring! All of us together added HEART and LOVE! There is no way this list can ever again become "a dry medical excuse...." for as long as you care about what truly happens to me, and you say so, and I truly care about what happens to you and extend my hand to allay your fears, we have something very special. Go one step further. Include the rest of the List, and what we have is an incredible family that any ListServ would be proud to consider its own! In caring, friendship and the continued existence of PIEN, E of the headdress > this list is to become is a dry medical excuse for exchanging that type SNIP > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn