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Dear Rayilyn Brown,
 I hear what you are saying, does that mean that Dolly the sheep that was a
clone from an egg no sperm not a real sheep. What about the kitten that came
from an egg no sperm was that a real kitten. I saw on TV where and
independent company cloned an mans DNA from an egg and they said if it was
implanted into an woman it would become a child. Just because there is no
sperm involved does not mean there is no life. Janice
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From: Rayilyn Brown <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: Debra/no sperm in SCNT


> Debra, there is NO sperm involved at all in SCNT.  Conception doesn't take
> place, at all, unless you think this is "immaculate" conception. This fact
> will not change your mind, but it is true.
>
> I might use an egg from my niece (she is not going to use all of them) and
my
> own DNA to possibly cure my PD.  Don't I deserve that chance if I want it?
> As you know, eggs are lost every month naturally.  Are we going to
retrieve
> all of them since some people, I guess, think they are people?  And what
> about all those thousands of embryos in in vitro clinics that have been
> discarded over the years since Louise Brown was born?  Snowflakes is
trying
> to get them, the ones left over, adopted.
>
> If I believed I was killing another human being to cure myself, of course,
I
> wouldn't do it.  I think it all comes down to what we think a person is.
I
> do not believe an acorn is an oak tree or an egg is a chicken and I don't
> believe stem cells are people. I have a more spiritual idea of an entity
> being more than matter.
>
> I have a cousin whose son died a horrrible death (it took 7 yrs)  at 35
from
> cystic fibrosis.  She opposes stem cell research because she believes that
> people pre-exist somewhere before birth and by supporting this research
she
> would be preventing them from being born.  I come down on the side of
living
> beings rather than hypothetical ones.  All the people who could possibly
be
> born are not going to be.  Is this what you and others want?
>
> I think Terry's explanation of what the science is is true, altho I doubt
it
> will change anyone whose mind is already made up.  Also, you don't have to
> use any cure or treatment you believe is immoral, like Jehovah's Witnesses
> won't have blood tranfusions.
> Rayilyn
>
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