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Janice, You are mentioning of taking a life to help yourself as unacceptable. I do not know if I understand. There was a point made about growing your own stem cells from your own DNA. This would not take somebody else's life. Do not misunderstand me. I am PRO LIFE too. I also question how do we know for certain all of God's plans? I truly do not want to spin another discussion about our own faith. Emily ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Morgan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Debra/no sperm in SCNT > I know what you are trying to say, I just said things that I saw on TV. It > is being said that it is not life with out a sperm and I just disagree, for > we now have a sheep and a kitten that did not need sperm to be made. So with > all this other I feel if it is let to grow and can become a baby I am not > for it that is all. I one would choose to shake to death before taking a > life to help me. Janice > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Terry Bowers <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 6:14 AM > Subject: Re: Debra/no sperm in SCNT > > > > Dear Janice, > > > > I for one am opposed to reproductive cloning, which aims to create human > > beings by cloning human embryos. But I'm not alone. Patients advocacy > groups > > and leading scientists, including the National Academy of Sciences, and a > > huge majority of the American people agree that human reproductive cloning > > should not be pursued. > > > > What we're talking about here is that SCNT could lead to dramatic new > > treatments and cures for now-incurable diseases and medical conditions. > SCNT > > could be used to help nearly 100 million Americans suffer from cancer, > > Alzheimer's, diabetes, Parkinson's, spinal cord injuries, heart disease, > > ALS, and other devastating conditions for which treatments must still be > > found. Proof of the principle for SCNT has been established in recently > > published research on disease in mice.Moreover SCNT is widely supported in > > the U.S., for instance by the Nation's leading medical scientists, > including > > the National Academy of Sciences, major patient advocacy organizations, > the > > American public, Republicans and Democrats and religious leaders. > > > > However the Brownback bill would have devastating results. It would ban > > SCNT, or therapeutic cloning, cutting-off hope to millions of Americans > with > > life-threatening diseases; make it illegal for U.S. citizens to seek SCNT > > treatment abroad. This means that a patient who may have little hope left > > could be thrown in jail upon re-entry to the U.S. if they went to another > > country to have treatment using SCNT. The bill calls for sending any U.S. > > scientist to jail for developing SCNT therapies in a petri dish; makes it > > illegal for U.S. scientists to import SCNT therapies that were developed > in > > other countries. In short, passage of Brownback-or any ban on this > > research-runs counter to our nation's history as the world's leader in > > biomedical research.Even a temporary ban on SCNT (such as a moratorium) > > would cripple this promising field and delay patients' access to > potentially > > life-saving treatments. > > > > And one final point that I would like to make. When we start saying when > > life begins and when life ends and God is for this science and God is > > against that science, we limit God. How can we as His creation begin to > know > > the true mind of God? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Terry Bowers > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Janice Morgan" <[log in to unmask]> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 5:40 AM > > Subject: Re: Debra/no sperm in SCNT > > > > > > > Dear Rayilyn Brown, > > > I hear what you are saying, does that mean that Dolly the sheep that > was > > a > > > clone from an egg no sperm not a real sheep. What about the kitten that > > came > > > from an egg no sperm was that a real kitten. I saw on TV where and > > > independent company cloned an mans DNA from an egg and they said if it > was > > > implanted into an woman it would become a child. Just because there is > no > > > sperm involved does not mean there is no life. Janice > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn