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Hi Emily, I was very careful in not saying anything about faith on this. What I believe I keep to myself when it comes to God. I just do not understand about the stem cell thing I guess. I do know that if it involves a woman's egg then it might be life that is all I was trying to say. Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: Emily and Julian Brinac <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 7:52 AM Subject: Re: Debra/no sperm in SCNT > Janice, > You are mentioning of taking a life to help yourself as unacceptable. I > do not know if I understand. There was a point made about growing your > own stem cells from your own DNA. This would not take somebody else's > life. Do not misunderstand me. I am PRO LIFE too. I also question how do > we know for certain all of God's plans? I truly do not want to spin > another discussion about our own faith. > Emily > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janice Morgan" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 9:59 AM > Subject: Re: Debra/no sperm in SCNT > > > > I know what you are trying to say, I just said things that I saw on > TV. It > > is being said that it is not life with out a sperm and I just > disagree, for > > we now have a sheep and a kitten that did not need sperm to be made. > So with > > all this other I feel if it is let to grow and can become a baby I am > not > > for it that is all. I one would choose to shake to death before taking > a > > life to help me. Janice > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Terry Bowers <[log in to unmask]> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 6:14 AM > > Subject: Re: Debra/no sperm in SCNT > > > > > > > Dear Janice, > > > > > > I for one am opposed to reproductive cloning, which aims to create > human > > > beings by cloning human embryos. But I'm not alone. Patients > advocacy > > groups > > > and leading scientists, including the National Academy of Sciences, > and a > > > huge majority of the American people agree that human reproductive > cloning > > > should not be pursued. > > > > > > What we're talking about here is that SCNT could lead to dramatic > new > > > treatments and cures for now-incurable diseases and medical > conditions. > > SCNT > > > could be used to help nearly 100 million Americans suffer from > cancer, > > > Alzheimer's, diabetes, Parkinson's, spinal cord injuries, heart > disease, > > > ALS, and other devastating conditions for which treatments must > still be > > > found. Proof of the principle for SCNT has been established in > recently > > > published research on disease in mice.Moreover SCNT is widely > supported in > > > the U.S., for instance by the Nation's leading medical scientists, > > including > > > the National Academy of Sciences, major patient advocacy > organizations, > > the > > > American public, Republicans and Democrats and religious leaders. > > > > > > However the Brownback bill would have devastating results. It would > ban > > > SCNT, or therapeutic cloning, cutting-off hope to millions of > Americans > > with > > > life-threatening diseases; make it illegal for U.S. citizens to seek > SCNT > > > treatment abroad. This means that a patient who may have little > hope left > > > could be thrown in jail upon re-entry to the U.S. if they went to > another > > > country to have treatment using SCNT. The bill calls for sending any > U.S. > > > scientist to jail for developing SCNT therapies in a petri dish; > makes it > > > illegal for U.S. scientists to import SCNT therapies that were > developed > > in > > > other countries. In short, passage of Brownback-or any ban on this > > > research-runs counter to our nation's history as the world's leader > in > > > biomedical research.Even a temporary ban on SCNT (such as a > moratorium) > > > would cripple this promising field and delay patients' access to > > potentially > > > life-saving treatments. > > > > > > And one final point that I would like to make. When we start saying > when > > > life begins and when life ends and God is for this science and God > is > > > against that science, we limit God. How can we as His creation begin > to > > know > > > the true mind of God? > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Terry Bowers > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Janice Morgan" <[log in to unmask]> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 5:40 AM > > > Subject: Re: Debra/no sperm in SCNT > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rayilyn Brown, > > > > I hear what you are saying, does that mean that Dolly the sheep > that > > was > > > a > > > > clone from an egg no sperm not a real sheep. What about the kitten > that > > > came > > > > from an egg no sperm was that a real kitten. I saw on TV where and > > > > independent company cloned an mans DNA from an egg and they said > if it > > was > > > > implanted into an woman it would become a child. Just because > there is > > no > > > > sperm involved does not mean there is no life. 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