Janice, I am so lost with stem research. Lets say if you are a woman 60 years old, or a man for that reason. You are mentioning a woman's egg that has a potential of life. When it comes to certain age, what does it mean? Can you grow your own stem cells at any age? As I said I have no clear idea, maybe there are people out there that know more. Thank you for your comments, Janice. Emily ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Morgan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 4:24 PM Subject: Re: Debra/no sperm in SCNT > Hi Emily, > I was very careful in not saying anything about faith on this. What I > believe I keep to myself when it comes to God. > I just do not understand about the stem cell thing I guess. I do know that > if it involves a woman's egg then it might be life that is all I was trying > to say. Janice > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Emily and Julian Brinac <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 7:52 AM > Subject: Re: Debra/no sperm in SCNT > > > > Janice, > > You are mentioning of taking a life to help yourself as unacceptable. I > > do not know if I understand. There was a point made about growing your > > own stem cells from your own DNA. This would not take somebody else's > > life. Do not misunderstand me. I am PRO LIFE too. I also question how do > > we know for certain all of God's plans? I truly do not want to spin > > another discussion about our own faith. > > Emily > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Janice Morgan" <[log in to unmask]> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 9:59 AM > > Subject: Re: Debra/no sperm in SCNT > > > > > > > I know what you are trying to say, I just said things that I saw on > > TV. It > > > is being said that it is not life with out a sperm and I just > > disagree, for > > > we now have a sheep and a kitten that did not need sperm to be made. > > So with > > > all this other I feel if it is let to grow and can become a baby I am > > not > > > for it that is all. I one would choose to shake to death before taking > > a > > > life to help me. Janice > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Terry Bowers <[log in to unmask]> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 6:14 AM > > > Subject: Re: Debra/no sperm in SCNT > > > > > > > > > > Dear Janice, > > > > > > > > I for one am opposed to reproductive cloning, which aims to create > > human > > > > beings by cloning human embryos. But I'm not alone. Patients > > advocacy > > > groups > > > > and leading scientists, including the National Academy of Sciences, > > and a > > > > huge majority of the American people agree that human reproductive > > cloning > > > > should not be pursued. > > > > > > > > What we're talking about here is that SCNT could lead to dramatic > > new > > > > treatments and cures for now-incurable diseases and medical > > conditions. > > > SCNT > > > > could be used to help nearly 100 million Americans suffer from > > cancer, > > > > Alzheimer's, diabetes, Parkinson's, spinal cord injuries, heart > > disease, > > > > ALS, and other devastating conditions for which treatments must > > still be > > > > found. Proof of the principle for SCNT has been established in > > recently > > > > published research on disease in mice.Moreover SCNT is widely > > supported in > > > > the U.S., for instance by the Nation's leading medical scientists, > > > including > > > > the National Academy of Sciences, major patient advocacy > > organizations, > > > the > > > > American public, Republicans and Democrats and religious leaders. > > > > > > > > However the Brownback bill would have devastating results. It would > > ban > > > > SCNT, or therapeutic cloning, cutting-off hope to millions of > > Americans > > > with > > > > life-threatening diseases; make it illegal for U.S. citizens to seek > > SCNT > > > > treatment abroad. This means that a patient who may have little > > hope left > > > > could be thrown in jail upon re-entry to the U.S. if they went to > > another > > > > country to have treatment using SCNT. The bill calls for sending any > > U.S. > > > > scientist to jail for developing SCNT therapies in a petri dish; > > makes it > > > > illegal for U.S. scientists to import SCNT therapies that were > > developed > > > in > > > > other countries. In short, passage of Brownback-or any ban on this > > > > research-runs counter to our nation's history as the world's leader > > in > > > > biomedical research.Even a temporary ban on SCNT (such as a > > moratorium) > > > > would cripple this promising field and delay patients' access to > > > potentially > > > > life-saving treatments. > > > > > > > > And one final point that I would like to make. When we start saying > > when > > > > life begins and when life ends and God is for this science and God > > is > > > > against that science, we limit God. How can we as His creation begin > > to > > > know > > > > the true mind of God? > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > Terry Bowers > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Janice Morgan" <[log in to unmask]> > > > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > > > Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 5:40 AM > > > > Subject: Re: Debra/no sperm in SCNT > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rayilyn Brown, > > > > > I hear what you are saying, does that mean that Dolly the sheep > > that > > > was > > > > a > > > > > clone from an egg no sperm not a real sheep. What about the kitten > > that > > > > came > > > > > from an egg no sperm was that a real kitten. I saw on TV where and > > > > > independent company cloned an mans DNA from an egg and they said > > if it > > > was > > > > > implanted into an woman it would become a child. Just because > > there is > > > no > > > > > sperm involved does not mean there is no life. 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