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Joe,  Mr. Shonkar should have read the rest of the story.. But this is like
the fuitle  effort to resollve the platform differences between liiberals
and conservatives. I suppose that will not happen for sometime.. In one case
your in good standing whatever happens asnd the other your side looses big
time.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Thome" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: too seriously


> Patricia,
>
> I couldn't agree with you more that we are no more special on this earth
> than any other living creature. And the Bible seems to support that
because
> it shows no special reverence for human life in the examples below.
>
> --He that sacrifficeth unto any God, save unto the Lord only, he shall be
> utterly destroyed. Exodus 22:00
> --And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to
> death. Leviticus 24:16
> --Whosoever doeth any work in the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to
> death. Exodus 31:15
> --He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall surely b put to death.
> Exodus 21:15
> --He that curseth his father or his mother, shall surely be put to death.
> Exodus 21:17
>
> The above were compiled by the late by the late Jyoti Shonkar, publisher
of
> Bubbles Online Magazine.
>
>
> Joe
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patricia Lewis" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 6:35 PM
> Subject: too seriously
>
>
> > Let me throw something out into the fire here.  It is my belief that we
> human beings take our selves and our place on this Earth just a little too
> seriously.  All you need to do is watch the Discovery Channel once in
awhile
> and you'll learn that the Yellowstone caldera is going to blow in about
1700
> or 2700 years and when it does life will be destroy; or that asteroid
> collision.  So to coin a phrase "what's it all about Alfie?".
> >
> > What makes us more special than any other life on this Earth?  Of course
> we cherish our own personal existence and time on Earth, but certainly
life
> does not cherish us.  If I didn't enjoy those hamburgers so much I would
be
> a vegetarian.  But something has gotta die so that I might live.  That
> leaves me feeling guilty.  I have to assume (yes, assume) that this is
meant
> to be and what the basis of existence is all about.
> >
> > Let's say, just for fun, that suicide is a sin and not a personal right.
> Let's then say that banning something like therapeutic cloning could be in
> some respects interpreted as murder of the disabled masses for refusing to
> them the potential cure; or even suicide if one cannot reach out and grasp
> the most promising development (cloning in any form) of the moment to
> prevent death, are they committing suicide and therefore a sin?  You'll
have
> to come to grips with your god about that one.
> >
> > These are interesting points to argue but there is no black and white -
> only shades of gray matter (pun intended).
> >
> > Let's enjoy the discussion, the bantering, the mystery, the solutions,
the
> problem solving, the sharing - but I for one won't take it too personally
> and will try to digest the information in the positive manner for which
I'll
> assume it is given.
> >
> >
> > pat
> > patricia lewis (age 49)
> > cg for spouse: burdette e anderson 53/35/34
> > boulder MT 59632 USA
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
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