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Good ideas, Lavanya. Divining the mind/thinking of God is not helpful to a philosophical discussion because it introduces a party or entity not recognized in the same way by everybody. We need to undertand the terms of the argument and which ones we can agree on. Rayilyn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn