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How do you tell anyone who has been conditioned to disrespect the old, the chronically diseased or even racially situated. My Dad is still my Dad, I just slow down and listen like I did when my daughter was very young and living and breathing in a different time zone than my grownup one. CGJann ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn