Hi, Sorry to have missed Sunday's talk, but intrigued that notions of authenticity would come up in the context of teaching writing. As some of you may know, Don Lawrence & I worried "authenticity" as a critical term in our recent book, seeing it as the hallmark of the kind of writing/composing that interested us. In a recent interview (in _West Coast Line_) Don links authenticity to the vernacular in art: he says that the "vernacular ... involves a sense that one's personally-experienced past (often hidden or buried) can be recovered, even redeemed, in the present moment--specifically, at the point of contact where artist and audience meet. When vernacular art moves us, it does so not because of its originality or its illustrative function, but because it strikes us as authentic, authentic, that is, to the moments of production and contact." Some of this, it seems to me, might be true for classroom-based writing as well. As teachers, we are asking our students to recover (or redeem) that which is not necessarily "at home" in a classroom setting; we are asking our students to share our sense of academic reality, encouraging them to find ways to make their ideas, experiences, intuitions, and research count in a new linguistic context? We are asking our students to believe, with Russ, that the classroom provides more than mere conjectural reality--that it is a good space for authentic expression. As Marcy writes, authenticity is a property of the writer, but it is also something felt by the reader as true to the moments of production and contact? Cheers, Will < < Dr. W.F. Garrett-Petts > > Associate Professor, English & Modern Languages UCC, 900 McGill Road Voice: (250) 828-5248 Box 3010, Kamloops B.C. FAX: (250) 371-5697 B.C. V2C 5N3 Canada. E-mail: [log in to unmask] http://www.cariboo.bc.ca < < Writing is a Performance Art > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] For the list archives and information about the organization, its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-