I wouldn't agree that the "fundamental assumption" in _Worlds Apart_ is that the role of university writing classes is to prepare students for their future careers, and for several reasons. First, the authors are very clear that school writing has its own particular, and entirely legitimate and worthwhile, purposes for writing--as do different instances of workplace writing. The authors are *not* at all suggesting that school writing is a pale imitation of workplace writing or that the primary function of school writing is to somehow prepare students for the writing they'll be doing later on in their lives after graduation. And second, the research underlying _Worlds Apart_ focused on particular disciplines that do represent themselves as providing professional preparation--such as Architecture, Social Work, Engineering, and Public Administration. And the authors don't make any claims beyond the bounds of this research. And to respond as well to the implication that students don't really expect to receive preparation for their future careers . . . I disagree: I think that this definitely is *one* of the expectations, among others, that many students have. As one of our graduate students said here at Purdue, "If you try telling a kid who's going to graduate with a $30,000 student loan to repay that they shouldn't really expect their academic programs to position them for jobs, they'll think you're a little crazy." More grist for the mill ... Graham *************************************************************** Graham Smart Office phone: (765) 494-3773 Assistant Professor Office fax: (765) 494-3780 Purdue University Home phone: (765) 583-0674 Department of English Home fax: (765) 583-0674 324 Heavilon Hall mailto: [log in to unmask] West Lafayette http://icdweb.cc.purdue.edu/~gsmart Indiana 47907 *************************************************************** www.hungersite.com www.freedonation.com www.sierraclub.org Tosh wrote: > > The fundamental assumption that underlies "Worlds Apart" seems to be that the role of university writing classes is purely to prepare students for their future career. This makes sense in specialized majors such as journalism, engineering, law, etc., but I wonder if we should impose the same paradigm for other disciplines such as English, psychology, linguistics, anthropologies, etc. Authentic writing is possible and desirable in journalism, engineering, etc. because the students in these disciplines are expected to become journalists, engineers, etc., but do we always know what English majors end up being? If we can't predict the (majority of) students' future career, what is authentic writing? What are we trying to teach? Are we really responsible for providing job training? Do students come to university to prepare for their future career? (That's what the middle-class adage says, but do students really believe in that?) > > ------------- > Tosh > > --------------- > "Here is a test to find whether your mission on earth is finished.: If you're alive, it isn't." > -- Illusions. > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to > [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, > write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] > > For the list archives and information about the organization, > its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to > http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] For the list archives and information about the organization, its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-