> I have real qualms about the professionalization of undergrad studies: > quite apart from the concerns others have already expressed. Against > current trends, I believe the university system these days is pushing > even graduate students into giving papers at conferences, and > submitting papers to journals, etc., too soon and too often; and an > undergrad journal moves these pressures back even further > into yet earlier academic years. Well, all that I can really say here is that as an undergraduate myself I already want to get published, and am very proud of the fact that my theatre and book reviews have been published in a prestigious academic journal ("Shakespeare Bulletin") - something that most undergraduates would not get the chance to do. It is certainly true that I am unusually obsessed with Shakespeare, but I am fairly certain that there are other undergraduates out there who, like me, would very much like to have their work considered and published. Very simply, if I am wrong, and this is not something that undergraduates want to do, then there will be no submissions to my Journal and the project will fail. The main point is that undergraduates will not be forced to write for my Journal. Nobody will fail their course or lose marks for not doing so. On the other hand there are certainly a good number of students who are, at least in principle, interested in doing something extra-curricular involving Shakespeare. At the two universities where I have (very casually) canvassed for students interested in Shakespearean projects, there have been four to five immediate responses from each institution. Multiply this by the number of Universities who would be able to access an online Journal over the Internet and there must be hundreds if not thousands of potentially interested students. They should certainly not be forced to do additional work on Shakespeare in their spare time if they do not want to, but at the same time they should not be prevented from doing so either. >Why should undergrads want to > publish academic articles unless they are going to go on (to grad > school, to journalism, etc.)?--in which case they will be able to publish > from these other venues soon enough (and with more to offer). > Whatever happened to the idea of gradual development? Well, as a Part-Time student, "soon enough" for me means in five years time. That is a pretty long wait, and I'm impatient. Furthermore, this argument could be used to suggest the abolition of just about every student society. Why should undergraduates want to write for a college newspaper / work for campus radio / act in college productions when they could otherwise wait until they are professional journalists / actors? The answer is that they enjoy doing the work and gaining the experience, and also they get to try out the activity to see whether they would really want to do it for a living. Not all student newspaper writers become professional journalists, and I wouldn't expect all of the students who write for an undergraduate Shakespeare Journal to become professional Shakespeareans either. >Moreover, undergrads thinking about going on to grad studies should > be warned against starting a trend whereby, e.g., to get into MA/PhD > programs universities may start expecting undergrads to have > published something already. Ratcheting up the pressures and > demands associated with applying to and getting > into grad schools is NOT a good idea. It would be very flattering to think that my idea could even be considered likely to catch on in such a way. The truth is, however, that one small undergraduate online Journal (run by an undergraduate) is very unlikely to change the world's postgraduate applications systems. I would like to think that those who write for my proposed Journal will have an additional hook to help them pull themselves into a postgraduate course, but probably only to the same extent that their application would be improved if they had an active role in the University English Society or wrote for the student newspaper. This should benefit those willing to take part in the project, without changing in any way the opportunities of those who do not and who simply have one less thing on their CV. I would certainly not want to do anything that would actually damage the prospects of undergraduates. I am not convinced that an Undergraduate Shakespeare Journal would cause such damage. Thomas Larque. "Shakespeare and His Critics" http://shakespearean.org.uk