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Date:         Fri, 3 May 2002 08:37:14 -0700
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I will be away for 5 days. Since I share this address with my business =
it will surely be maxed out before i return. Is it aceptable to drop out =
for a period and return again. If so how would i acompish this??
Tom

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 I am leaving earlier than I thought .  please=20
Remove me from the list temporarily, if possible=20
Thank you
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Send an email to <[log in to unmask]>.  Do NOT reply to this
email as that will go to the wrong address and everyone else on the
list.

The subject line may be blank.  In the body of the message, put

set parkinsn nomail

Or, to be removed from the list, follow the instructions at the bottom
of every message from the list.

HTH,
Gary

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Date:         Fri, 3 May 2002 14:11:08 -0400
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From:         Gail Vass <[log in to unmask]>
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Folks,

I know that not everyone can do this. This will not apply to
every medication but it does apply to many and hopefully
sharing this will help a lot of people.

My prescription cost $276 in Virginia and $153 in Canada.

My pharmacy sells 100 of the 150 mg capsules for $276
                           and 100 of the 75 mg capsules for   $239.
CA pharmacy sells  100 of the 150 mg capsules for $153
                           and 100 of the  75 mg capsules for  $139.

I've found that  by purchasing my own gel caps and dividing
a 150 mg  capsule into two 75 mg doses, I can save quite a lot
of money. My pharmacist told me that I could divide the dose
but that he couldn't because of the patent on the medication.

Since  my daily dose is 75 mg a day [with my doctors * permission,
and the*  proper prescription] , I buy the 150 mg dose and divide it
in two doses [I tap one half of the medication out of the capsule
and into the clear gelcap I purchased ] and end up paying $276
for 200 doses if I buy in the US.

If I buy off the internet in Canada I can buy 100 doses for $153
 and divide those capsules too ...my cost  $76.50 for 100 days.

With little effort at all I can pay $ 239  x 2  = $478  for  200 capsules
or $153 for 200 capsules [a savings for me of $345 dollars] . It's worth
looking into if you don't have medication insurance and have to pay
cash.

Some "scored"  tablets can save you too.
     For example:
          20 mg tablets often cost the same as 10 mg tablets
          If your doctor prescribes 10 mg four times a day, ask
          for a prescription for 20 mg tablets and snap them
          in half. You can save yourself half the cost if your
          tablet or pill if it is scored.

If the medication does not have a line down the middle you can not
 safely use this method but you can talk with your doctor tell him that
you don't have medication insurance and ask him to work with you
and utilize this idea perhaps with a similar drug.

Asking for samples at his office and asking for generics also can
save you money.

Gail

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Drug companies maintain "astounding" profits

    BM 2002;324:1054 ( 4 May 2002 )
http://bmj.com/cgi/content/full/324/7345/1054/b

Pharmaceuticals again ranked as the most profitable sector in the United States,
topping the annual Fortune 500 ranking of America's top industries, released this month.

The pharmaceutical industry topped all three of Fortune magazine's measures of
profitability for 2001, making this decade the third in which the industry has been
at or near the top in all the magazine's measures of profitability.

--snip---

Overall profits of Fortune 500 companies declined by 53% in 2001, while
the top 10 US drug makers increased profits by 32% from $28bn  to $37bn, according
to Public Citizen's analysis of the Fortune 500 data. Together the
10 drug companies in the list had the greatest return on revenues, reporting
a profit of 18.5 cents for every dollar of sales, eight times higher than the
median for all Fortune 500 industries, which was 2.2 cents.

Gail

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Date:         Fri, 3 May 2002 14:33:20 -0400
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Tom,

You asked why I asked this question to begin with.

My sister saw her neurologist this past week and he suggested
her stopping the Eldepryl she has been on for 7 years as a possible
solution for help with her sleeping problem.

He said one side effect of Eldepryl  can be sleep difficulites. When
Edna asked about coming off it,  he said that the Eldeprly probably
wasn't doing anything for her at this point and that she could just
stop the drug without it being tapered down and discontinued.

She didn't want to add a sleeping medication to the mix so she
agreed to stop the Eldepryl to see if she slept better.

Within a couple days Edna said she was feeling "bad"...she said
her "internal"  tremors had returned, she had a headache that wouldn't
quit and she felt  "bad" all over.  She went back onto Eldepryl and these symptoms
went away.

She evidently is one that does derive some symptomatic relief
from Eldeprly and wants to stay on it.

Gail

PS.   Tom, Edna is on Eldepryl because her Movement Disorder
PD Specialist said that if she was diagnosed with PD, she would
take Eldepryl herself.....and the doctor who suggested to stop the
Eldepryl is employed by a HMO.

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Date:         Fri, 3 May 2002 21:50:31 +0530
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From:         vmehra <[log in to unmask]>
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Hello Everyone,
I am so sorry for whatever virus came your way. I was just stunned when I
got all the virus emails, coz I didnt have any indication of any problem
with the comp before that.
So I do apologize to everyone if I did do any harm

Ok now the next thing. I have downloaded an updated virus software so am
hopeful taht it would take care of the problem. But I have no idea whether
it has or hasn't. I mean I have run the virus scan, it located some problems
and rectified that, but how do I know for sure that this mail doesnt have
virus?

And I understand about the "Bad Name" and I did not take offence to it. I
just want to tell you that I am myself a bit scared of posting here again.

How do I make sure that this doesnt happen again?

Another thing- This virus seems to have been from the outlook express.
Should I go to add/remove prog and remove OE and then reinstall it? Will
that help? Or will removing it, completely get rid of the software and I
would have to redownload it from somewhere?
Or do you suppose that the latest virus check would have solved the problem
by now?

Take care all,
Lavanya

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Date:         Fri, 3 May 2002 22:04:09 +0530
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Another question. In the past 2 days, I have got more than 50 mails from
different people and websites saying that the attachment i sent them has a
virus. I never sent anyone any mail with an attachment and most of the sites
I haven't even heard of. Now the attachment seems to be some Me nude MP3.
Is this a virus or has someone hacked into my computer and sent this to the
different people?
Take care
Lavanya

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Date:         Fri, 3 May 2002 08:51:47 -0600
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From:         nkporter <[log in to unmask]>
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Good Morning,

Questions:  All the virus talk has started to worry me.

1. Is PIEN more or less targeted than other lists? Does any one have a
basis for comparison?

2. What about Mac users?  Am I being too confident that the virus/worm
targets do not include Macs?  And do Macintosh users on the list have
detection and correction software?

Nancy P.

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Date:         Fri, 3 May 2002 16:19:27 -0400
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From:         Larry Wilson <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Increase in medication.
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Just got back from Texas and found my brother (in new nursing home) on 2/100
Senemet 3 times a day at 5:00 am , 2:00 pm, and 10:00 pm in the evening.  He
was also underweight, had a feeding tube in his stomach, was not talking,
could not walk without assistance.  He appeared weaker than a month ago.  He
has all the classic symptoms or  (severe) PD.  He had been taking his
feeding at the same time.

Neurologist (PD expert) put him on Senemet 4 times a day at 7:00 am, 11:00
am, 3:00 pm and 7:00 pm and feeding 30 minutes before or after.  His  wife
just had his tube feeding increased to 24 calories per day.  I believe he
gets 1 liter a day of water.  We are going to try the new regiment and take
him back to the PD Dr. in June.

Let you know in June if this makes a difference.

Larry

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Date:         Fri, 3 May 2002 16:22:58 EDT
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Subject:      Re: No more Virus I hope
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i wouldn't hesitate to continue posting..your virus program should have taken
care of everything..i wouldn't remove a major program...things will get
better from here forward. thanks for your concern, it could happen to any of
us.
best,
maxine

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Date:         Fri, 3 May 2002 16:26:32 EDT
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i received the one you mentioned..when i see anything unfamiliar i just
delete it. i never open any attachment unless i'm very confident i know who
it is from...
maxine

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Date:         Fri, 3 May 2002 16:30:52 -0400
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If I heard M. Fox right by the time one is diagnosed with PD 80% of the
Domamine Producing Cells have been destroyed?

Larry

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In a message dated 5/3/2002 4:18:25 PM, [log in to unmask] writes:

<< If I buy off the internet in Canada >>

Gail,

Do you have a Canadian supplier you recommend?

Thanks,
Kathleen

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My take is our brains produce an overabundance of dopamine. So when the
levels drop to around 70-80% of normal is when we become symptomatic.

-Terry

> If I heard M. Fox right by the time one is diagnosed with PD 80% of the
> Domamine Producing Cells have been destroyed?
>
> Larry

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Hello all,

For a great virus primer, go to www.tourbus.com...under the heading Classics
(left hand column), click on Virus Prevention 101/102.

Tourbus offers a wonderful newsletter with reviews and recommendations of
cool and useful web site. The writers, Bob Rankin and Patrick Crispen, are
very knowledgable, literate, and funny.

If it weren't for Tourbus I never would have found my favorite (though oddly
named) search engine, dogpile.com.

There -- two plugs in one email!

Regards,
Kathleen

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Larry,
You are doing so much for your brother. Please keep us posted.
Emily
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From: "Larry Wilson" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 4:19 PM
Subject: Increase in medication.


> Just got back from Texas and found my brother (in new nursing home) on
2/100
> Senemet 3 times a day at 5:00 am , 2:00 pm, and 10:00 pm in the
evening.  He
> was also underweight, had a feeding tube in his stomach, was not
talking,
> could not walk without assistance.  He appeared weaker than a month
ago.  He
> has all the classic symptoms or  (severe) PD.  He had been taking his
> feeding at the same time.
>
> Neurologist (PD expert) put him on Senemet 4 times a day at 7:00 am,
11:00
> am, 3:00 pm and 7:00 pm and feeding 30 minutes before or after.  His
wife
> just had his tube feeding increased to 24 calories per day.  I believe
he
> gets 1 liter a day of water.  We are going to try the new regiment and
take
> him back to the PD Dr. in June.
>
> Let you know in June if this makes a difference.
>
> Larry
>
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Just curious . . . why can you not safely use a pill that has been broken in
two
as opposed to taking a pill that is scored?

Also, does Canada regulate their drugs to the same standards we do?

Jann

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Lavanya,
I do not know enough about the computer. Hope some expert will answer
your questions and we can all learn from it. What is interesting and
scary about your attachment, which does not appear to be yours at all
although it had your email address, was the name DONATED PRESCRIPTION.
We talked a lot  a few days ago about donated prescriptions. Somebody
has been watching the exchange of information on DONATED PRESCRIPTION;
could be some stranger to the List or a member. Having a good software,
and/or following all precautions that Murray indicated, can give one a
peace of mind.
I suggest that you do not undo your Outlook Express. Make sure that you
run LIVE UPDATE of your software program to protect you against the
latest viruses, perhaps, once a week. After a life update run a scan on
your entire computer.After the later you will be informed if the viruses
were found, cleaned and/or quarantined. Until you hear from somebody
else, I thought I would give you my perspective.
Emily
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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:34 PM
Subject: hacking?


> Another question. In the past 2 days, I have got more than 50 mails
from
> different people and websites saying that the attachment i sent them
has a
> virus. I never sent anyone any mail with an attachment and most of the
sites
> I haven't even heard of. Now the attachment seems to be some Me nude
MP3.
> Is this a virus or has someone hacked into my computer and sent this
to the
> different people?
> Take care
> Lavanya
>
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That is my information too.
Emily
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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 4:30 PM
Subject: Is that true?


> If I heard M. Fox right by the time one is diagnosed with PD 80% of
the
> Domamine Producing Cells have been destroyed?
>
> Larry
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Date:         Fri, 3 May 2002 17:58:50 -0400
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Hi, Jann,
I think our standards in Canada regarding drugs are as good as yours,
perhaps, even more conservative in my opinion. If you buy Mirapex or any
other drug for PD that is available in Canada, will be the same as in
USA. Murray will know the best.
I use some supplements bought in USA as they are not available in Canada
due to restrictions regarding sufficient research on potential effects
from the drugs or supplements. (Canada may not consider them safe.) One
example of PD drugs: Mirapex and Requipp: in Canada we cannot legally
drive if prescribed these drugs.( In our situation my husband takes
Permax , for that reason.)
Emily
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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 5:12 PM
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> Just curious . . . why can you not safely use a pill that has been
broken in
> two
> as opposed to taking a pill that is scored?
>
> Also, does Canada regulate their drugs to the same standards we do?
>
> Jann
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***********A message from Ask the Doctor**************
The NPF website is updated several times each week.  Go to =
http://www.parkinson.org/whatsnew.htm to read recent articles regarding =
Parkinson disease.
******************************************************

Caffeine and the Promise of Adenosine Antagonists in PD=20
Michael A. Schwarzschild, MD, PhD (lead author)

Department Neurology, Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston Mass=20

a National Parkinson Foundation Center of Excellence=20

Neurology, 2002, volume 58, page 1154


Abstract
Large studies link drinking coffee and other caffeinated beverages to a
reduced risk of developing PD. Caffeine as well as more specific
antagonists of the adenosine A2A receptor have been found to decrease
neurotoxicity in a mouse model of PD. The convergence of these data
supports the possibility that caffeine may reduce the risk of developing
PD. However, a neuroprotective effect of caffeine in PD remains =
unproven.
Current evidence does not provide a basis for recommending caffeine
consumption to modify the risk or progression of PD. In addition to
possessing neuroprotective potential, caffeine and other A2A antagonists
have been known to reverse motor deficits in a variety of PD models. =
This
symptomatic benefit of blocking A2A receptors, coupled with their
restricted expression in the basal ganglia, have made A2A antagonists
targets for drug development.


Coffee, tea, and the risk for PD.=20
Genetic clues are yielding insights not only into the cause of familial =
PD
but also into the pathways that likely contribute to typical PD. =
Moreover,
it is clear that in what appears to be typical PD with onset before age
50, genes play a key role. Nevertheless, recent studies of twins have
generally reinforced epidemiologic evidence against a genetic influence =
in
PD with onset after age 50 and have refocused research on unidentified =
or
underappreciated environmental risk factors for PD such as chronic
low-level exposure to heavy metals, herbicides, pesticides, and =
chemicals
resembling MPTP.

In addition, "negative" risk factors such as cigarette smoking raise the
possibility of protective environmental elements. Among "negative" =
dietary
factors, prior coffee or tea drinking has emerged as the most consistent
association with a reduced risk of PD. When first considered in the =
early
1990s, a reduced risk of developing PD associated with drinking coffee =
was
not significant. Subsequent studies have demonstrated that even after
accounting for other factors, the inverse relationship between coffee
drinking and PD is significant.

These studies investigated dose-response relationships and found that
increasing coffee consumption was associated with a decreasing =
likelihood
of developing PD. PD patients were 4-8 times less likely than control
subjects to have reported being heavy coffee drinkers. Fewer studies =
have
considered the effect of tea drinking, but these usually found a reduced
likelihood of "preventing" PD. More convincingly, 2 reports of
prospectively followed, large populations have firmly linked coffee
drinking to a reduced risk of developing PD. 8000 Japanese American men,
in the Honolulu Heart Program were followed for 30 years. Over 100 went =
on
to develop PD. The incidence of PD declined dose dependently with
increasing coffee drinking, with over 5 times less risk in those who =
drank
over 4 (6-oz) cups/day.

Confirmation of these findings is provided by a prospective study of
larger multiethnic populations: nearly 50,000 men followed for 10 years =
in
the Health Professionals Follow-Up Study and 90,000 women followed for =
16
years in the Nurses Health Study.

Among the men, significant dose-dependent inverse relationships were
identified when coffee drinking, tea drinking, non-coffee caffeine
consumption, and total caffeine consumption were plotted against the
incidence of subsequent PD. Again, the inverse associations occurred
independently of smoking and other confounding factors. By contrast, the
rates of consuming decaffeinated coffee bore no relationship to the risk
of PD.

Interestingly, comparison of the female and male cohorts of health care
workers exposes a gender difference in caffeine's relationship to PD =
risk.
Just as for men, the incidence of PD appeared to decrease for women in
association with caffeine or coffee consumption at moderate levels.
However, women with high caffeine or coffee consumption rates showed the
same risk of PD as those who took in little or no caffeine or coffee. As =
a
result, no clear overall relationship between caffeine or coffee intake
and PD could be discerned in the women. These findings substantiated
observations by the Mayo Clinic. A potential interaction between =
caffeine
consumption and estrogen exposure in determining PD risk is an =
intriguing
hypothesis.


Caffeine: Is it a Neuroprotectant?
Despite their strength, these studies cannot answer a fundamental
question: Does caffeine help prevent PD, or does PD or its causes =
prevent
the habitual use of caffeine? Although this question of causality is
difficult to address in humans, animal models offer useful clues. The
possibility that caffeine protects against the dopamine degeneration in =
PD
is strengthened by our finding that caffeine can protect against =
toxicity
in a mouse model of PD. Caffeine, at doses comparable with those =
consumed
by humans, decreased the loss of striatal dopamine caused by MPTP.

Pharmacologic studies indicate that the CNS effects of caffeine are
mediated by its antagonistic actions at the A1 and A2A subtypes of
adenosine receptor. Adenosine A2A receptors may be relevant because =
their
expression in brain is restricted to the striatum. Furthermore, their
blockade is known to protect against certain types of nerve injury.
Accordingly, relatively specific A2A as well as A1-receptor antagonists
were tested for their ability to mimic caffeine's protection against =
MPTP.
All three of the A2A antagonists tested (but not the A1 antagonist)
significantly reduced the MPTP caused lesions. Similarly, A2A-receptor
knockout mice (which are devoid of A2A receptors) decreased MPTP caused
losses of striatal dopamine. These studies suggest that caffeine, via =
its
antagonistic action at the A2A receptor, is capable of protecting =
against
dopamine toxicity.

How A2A-receptor blockade might protect dopamine neurons is unknown. The
A2A-receptors in the striatum are not on the dopamine cells that begin =
in
the substantia nigra suggesting their modulation of dopamine neuron
toxicity is indirect. They are confined to a group of medium spiny =
neurons
that also express D2-dopamine and enkephalin receptors. These neurons =
may
influence dopamine toxicity through a feedback circuit running back to =
the
dopamine neurons of the substantia nigra.

Specifically, the A2A-receptor striatal neurons project to the globus
pallidus, where A2A-receptor stimulation increases the release GABA (a
chemical transmitter). This increases the blockade of pallidal neurons.
The pallidal cells are inhibitory and project to the subthalamic =
nucleus.
Thus stimulation of A2A-receptors can lead to unblocking inhibition or
stimulation of the subthalamic nucleus. Because the subthalamic nucleus
sends a glutamine projection to the substantia nigra its increased
activity may contribute to over-excitement and injury of nigral dopamine
neurons. (Deep brain stimulation of the subthalamic nucleus decreases =
its
over-activity. This may account for its beneficial effects in PD).

The simplest alternative to caffeine impeding the development of PD is
that PD may impede the development of a caffeine habit. Subtle disorders
of smell, sleep, and mood have been proposed as early features of PD. =
And
that may lead to reduced caffeine intake. However, this possibility can =
be
dismissed since the inverse correlations between coffee or caffeine are
strongest when based on dietary intake assessed more than a decade =
before
diagnosis of PD. Follow-up surveys of coffee and caffeine habits did not
show a strengthening of the correlation, which would have been expected =
if
PD symptoms were contributing to the reduced caffeine consumption.

In addition to caffeine consumption, cigarette smoking is the only other
environmental exposure that has been clearly and consistently linked to =
a
reduced risk of developing PD. Like caffeine, nicotine has been found, =
at
least under certain conditions, to decrease dopamine neuron toxicity in
models of PD. And based on experimental evidence, one may propose that
smoking and coffee drinking are associated with a reduced risk of
developing PD because both caffeine and a component of cigarette smoke
independently confer protection against dopamine toxicity. The fact that
smoking and caffeine consumption are both addictive habits may be a
coincidence. The coincidence, however, seems striking if one considers
that alcohol consumption, particularly when heavy or excessive, has also
been independently linked to a reduced risk of PD.

Thus, a broader unifying hypothesis emerges from this pattern of reduced
consumption of addictive substances among those who have an increased =
risk
of developing PD: Something about individuals that make them less likely
to develop addictive behaviors may make them more likely to develop PD.
Addiction, reward behaviors, and PD all share a common chemical
denominator: Dopamine in the nigra and other brain regions is central to
PD and addiction biology.

Adenosine Antagonists: A Novel Therapy for PD?
In the early 1970s, several studies in animal models of PD characterized
the motor-stimulant properties of caffeine. These led to two clinical
trials to test for a symptomatic benefit of caffeine in combination with
levodopa or dopamine agonists. No clinical improvement was seen.

In the early 1980s, accumulating evidence attributed caffeine's actions =
in
brain to adenosine receptor antagonism. Caffeine's actions are complex
owing in part to the multiplicity of adenosine receptor subtypes (A1, =
A2A,
A2A, and A3), each having a unique distribution in different brain
regions. A1 and A2A receptors are present in brain at particularly high
densities. Whereas A1 receptors are distributed widely throughout the
brain, the expression of A2A receptors is restricted to the =
dopamine-rich
striatum and olfactory tubercle.

Over the last decade, steady refinements in adenosine receptor
pharmacology and the development of receptor knockout models have led to
the conclusion that caffeine's motor-stimulant properties can he
attributed to its blockade of the A2A adenosine receptor. Recently, the
role for A2A receptors has been confirmed by a transgenic mouse model.

Evidence supports an antagonistic interaction between the A2A and D2
receptors co-localized on striatal output neurons. These neurons =
modulate
motor function through the so-called "indirect" pathway within the basal
ganglia. The A2A receptor, based on its modulation of dopaminergic motor
function and its selective expression in neurons mediating that =
function,
has emerged as a target for the development of novel anti-PD agents.

Chorea and dyskinesias are major motor complications of chronic
intermittent treatment with levodopa. We have found evidence that the =
A2A
receptor also plays an important role in establishing the maladaptive
response to levodopa treatment, raising the possibility that A2A
antagonists may offer an additional benefit of decreasing the =
development
of dyskinesias in PD. And unlike caffeine, whose motor effects often =
show
tolerance with repeated exposure, the motor benefit of A2A antagonist
persist.

This article was modified by Dr. Abe Lieberman to make it more readable
for lay people.
Caffeine stimulates adenosine receptors in the striatum. This modulates
the actions of dopamine. This may be part of the reason why caffeine is
neuroprotective. The adenosine receptor antagonists are more specific =
for
the adenosine receptors than caffeine. They may have a role in blocking
the development of dyskinesia. They may have a role in slowing the
progression of PD.

Interesting,  Phyllis

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Nagma,

My brother has similar symptoms and is in a nursing home.  His medications
have not been changed for two years.  I took him to a neurologist (PD one)
and he increased the medications and also changed the time they were being
taken.  Also, we are feeding him (recently) 2400 calories of food hoping to
fatten (strengthen) him.  At the same time we are fighting with the Physical
Therapist to give him more exercise.  He has good days and bad days.  We
will take him back to see the PD Doctor June 27th.  We hope to see a change
in him.  We will let all know.

Larry

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> Can anyone help me?
>
> My mother was first diagnosed in 1993 in Baltimore, US.  Back then her
symptoms were tremors with masked like expressions. The neurologist asked
her to walk spoke to her for max. 7 minutes and concluded that she had
Parkinsons!  She was put on Sinemet then.
> Today she is 72 years.  Everything has been downhill since 1993.  She now
cannot walk, talk (when she does her speech is all garbelled).  I don't know
if she can comprehend what we are saying.  She needs full time
assistance/care.
> Can I do anything to change her situation.  Is there anything that will
help her?  She was so full of life before this.  My only regret being I
didn't do enough for her when she could comprehend.  I'd give anything to
change her situation.  Please, anyone, help.
> I LOVE MY MOM
> Nagma
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hi list:

I have a Mac dual CPU G4  with Mas OS X
DVD-RAM for backup of way too much disk space

love it

With  the Protein Folding screensaver running in the background
(which I highly recommend to everyone on the list -- see below)
(important research we can all  support --  inexpensively)
(and I know you all have computers).

I routimely use and update Norton Anti-Virus
and Macs aren't supposed to be affected by virusees--
but, they are out there

my ISP has stopperd a number of viruses

Twice I have lost files  and once my  address book.

actually not bad --
considering I receive , on average,
100 e-maiils per day over the last 3 years.

3 x 365 x 100   =  109500

Ray

nkporter wrote:

>Good Morning,
>
>Questions:  All the virus talk has started to worry me.
>
>1. Is PIEN more or less targeted than other lists? Does any one have a
>basis for comparison?
>
the other lists I'm on have their problems too

>
>2. What about Mac users?  Am I being too confident that the virus/worm
>targets do not include Macs?  And do Macintosh users on the list have
>detection and correction software
>
protect yourself

>
>
>Nancy P.
>

 Ray Strand
                                     Prairie Sky Design
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                                  the ground is visible
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http://folding.stanford.edu
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Mary Jo, thanks again for the information.  We are still experiencing
difficulty with John and the Nursing Home.  I took him to a PD Specialist
and he increased his medications and put John on a different time schedule.
Hope we can improve his movement and behavior.  Nursing Home is not helping
very well.

Thanks for your concern.

Larry

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> Hi Larry,
>
> My brother-in-law had a rare form of PD which sounds a lot like what your
> brother is going through.  He had to have the feeding tube (as well as a
> couple of other tubes we don't need to discuss).  These things do require
> attention but can be learned by a family member; however, if there is no
one
> but his wife and she has to work, then a professional would have to be
> brought in.  This could be a home health care worker which may be provided
> by the county or city where he lives.  But he probably will need more
> attention than these "drop-in" health care people can give.  Should not be
> giving medical advice for sure, but I would be fairly certain that the
> feeding tube would be permanent since aspiration pneumonia is a threat.
>
> Mary Jo in Columbus, GA
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>
>
> > I am getting smarter, but I have a question and hope someone can answer
> it.
> > Again, I know this is a question for a Doctor but I am in Georgia and my
> PD
> > brother is in Texas.
> >
> > He had pnemonia and Dr. put a feeding tube in his stomach.  Now he feeds
> > only through his stomach.  (Dr. had him do a barium swallow and found he
> was
> > swallowing into his lungs.  )
> >
> > Question:  Is this a permanent method....or is there another
arrangement?
> > (In General)
> >
> > Larry
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I have read this claim as well, although, I believe, having observed my Dad
for most of my teenage-life on, there are some very subtle indications if
one is just naturally observant and makes mental notes.

CGJann

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Thanks for this info. I asked because I remember several months ago the
comment that drugs from overseas are definitely cheaper but do not undergo
the same regime of tests. I did not know Canada's status. I do know that in
my role as a rural health educator I come across lots of outstanding
websites when I am looking for material.

Hope your weekend is a pleasant one.

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emily, how do you run a scan on your computer?  thanks paula
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> Lavanya,
> I do not know enough about the computer. Hope some expert will answer
> your questions and we can all learn from it. What is interesting and
> scary about your attachment, which does not appear to be yours at all
> although it had your email address, was the name DONATED PRESCRIPTION.
> We talked a lot  a few days ago about donated prescriptions. Somebody
> has been watching the exchange of information on DONATED PRESCRIPTION;
> could be some stranger to the List or a member. Having a good software,
> and/or following all precautions that Murray indicated, can give one a
> peace of mind.
> I suggest that you do not undo your Outlook Express. Make sure that you
> run LIVE UPDATE of your software program to protect you against the
> latest viruses, perhaps, once a week. After a life update run a scan on
> your entire computer.After the later you will be informed if the viruses
> were found, cleaned and/or quarantined. Until you hear from somebody
> else, I thought I would give you my perspective.
> Emily
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> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:34 PM
> Subject: hacking?
>
>
> > Another question. In the past 2 days, I have got more than 50 mails
> from
> > different people and websites saying that the attachment i sent them
> has a
> > virus. I never sent anyone any mail with an attachment and most of the
> sites
> > I haven't even heard of. Now the attachment seems to be some Me nude
> MP3.
> > Is this a virus or has someone hacked into my computer and sent this
> to the
> > different people?
> > Take care
> > Lavanya
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   Jan,                                                                                                    Only pills which are scored should be broken.   Some pills, like Requip, are not scored and if they are crushed or broken, it will interfere with the absorption process in the GI tract.  SO you could get a large dose too quickly.  Usually the warning is on the side of the bottle of medicine tells you if a med should not be crushed or broken.                                                                                                               On another subject, was that another language that Ray was talking?   I have a very UNsophisticated system called mailstation which is e-mail without the PC.   No hard drive so therefore no viruses!!!!!                                                                                                  Cathy, RN

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> I mean I have run the virus scan, it located some
> problems and rectified that, but how do I know for sure that this mail
> doesnt have virus?
>
> And I understand about the "Bad Name" and I did not take offence to
> it. I just want to tell you that I am myself a bit scared of posting
> here again.
>
> How do I make sure that this doesnt happen again?
>
> Another thing- This virus seems to have been from the outlook express.
> Should I go to add/remove prog and remove OE and then reinstall it?
> Will that help? Or will removing it, completely get rid of the
> software and I would have to redownload it from somewhere? Or do you
> suppose that the latest virus check would have solved the problem by
> now?

Please save and keep the post which I just finished writing.  Using a
mailer other than Outlook or Outlook Express may help, but don't
delete any of the programs until you have a new mailer operating
properly.  Pegasus Mail (the one I use) is free and very powerful,
but it may be a little too powerful for a novice.  Eudora (available
in the stores) is also a good mailer and probably a little easier to
use for a novice.

No anti-virus program is any good unless you update it (for new
viruses) frequently.  If you are online more than occasionally, or
have an "always on" connection like DSL or cable, you should update
the anti-virus software at least once a week.  You should also scan
your system (a separate operation) weekly for viruses.  The better
anti-virus programs can be set to do this automatically.  My Norton
checks for updates Tuesdays and Fridays and scans the system on
Friday evenings.  Without me doing anything!  I have *never* had a
virus infection of my computer, and I get over 400 e-mail messages a
day and belong to at least a dozen lists.


Best,

Bob

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> Good Morning,
>
> Questions:  All the virus talk has started to worry me.
>
> 1. Is PIEN more or less targeted than other lists? Does any one have a
> basis for comparison?
>
> 2. What about Mac users?  Am I being too confident that the virus/worm
> targets do not include Macs?  And do Macintosh users on the list have
> detection and correction software?
>
> Nancy P.

I don't think that PIEN is "targeted" any more than other Lists.
This particular virus (as most others) is not actually distributed
through the List itself, but it gets sent out from the mailboxes of
individual members who have been careless and have executed the
program which has then contaminated their inboxes.

What usually happens is that a person gets the virus in the form of
an attachment (and does not have the proper "protection" which will
identify and quarantine the virus).  The person then executes the
virus program which then attaches itself to messages already present
in that person's mailbox (that is why the re-sends appear to come
from listpeople).  Then, the next time that the infected person signs
on, the virus begins sending itself (attached to old messages in the
mailbox) to every address present in the person's address book.

These viruses are primarily designed to affect people who use Outlook
or Outlook Express.  They can also be passed on through e-mail which
is sent in HTML (Web language) form; and that is why one should never
open any attachments unless they have been virus-scanned first; and
why one should always post in Plain Text only (and avoid the "fancy"
HTML postings which some of the mailers allow).  You need to set your
mailer (especially if you use Outlook or Outlook Express) to "Send
Plain Text Only".  I personally refuse to use Outlook or Outlook
Express, and use Pegasus Mail for Windows, a very powerful (and free
for downloading) mailer which is relatively "immune" to viruses.

Most of the viruses are designed for Windows computers, but Macs and
other machines can get infected with their own type of viruses as
well.  The only solution is to purchase and use (getting the updates
frequently) a good anti-virus program like Norton or McAfee.  Most of
them allow you to automate the process of scanning and updating and
so, once you have the program running, you don't have to do anything
but clean out your "Quarantine" occasionally.

It is insane to be online without a good virus program running.  It
is like unsafe sex.


Best,

Bob

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On Fri, 3 May 2002 16:43:50    Kathleen Cochran wrote:
>
>For a great virus primer, go to  www.tourbus.com...under the heading Classics
>(left hand column), click on Virus Prevention 101/102.
>Patrick Crispen, very knowledgable, literate, and funny.
>favorite (though oddly named) search engine, dogpile.com.

ditto !!!!!!!!  i listen to a radio show on wednesday nights - 11:15 pm - the steve and joni show from chicago on wgn radio 720 on the am dial.  every wednesday they have patrick crispan on and he answers computer questions from callers.



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    Lanny,                                                                                                  Mailstation is a product of Earthlink (formerly Cidco)  and you can find out more at 1-866-874-2071 (toll free).  I have a small keyboard and screen that is very portable so I can take it with me when I travel.   I bought it about 2 yrs. ago for around $100 but they are cheaper now.  I highly recommend it but you have to remember that you can't access any WWW. sites.  I bought mine at Radio Shack but I have seen them at Office Max and Kmart.                                           Cathy, RN

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Yes, that's the story.

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Larry,

You are very welcome.  I wish I could do something that would REALLY help
you all to improved his situation.  Sorry about NH problems.  Are there
others in his area that might be an option?  I do know your brother is
blessed to have you looking into his situation.

Mary Jo
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Subject: Re: Question


> Mary Jo, thanks again for the information.  We are still experiencing
> difficulty with John and the Nursing Home.  I took him to a PD Specialist
> and he increased his medications and put John on a different time
schedule.
> Hope we can improve his movement and behavior.  Nursing Home is not
helping
> very well.
>
> Thanks for your concern.
>
> Larry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill & Mary Jo Hay" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 10:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Question
>
>
> > Hi Larry,
> >
> > My brother-in-law had a rare form of PD which sounds a lot like what
your
> > brother is going through.  He had to have the feeding tube (as well as a
> > couple of other tubes we don't need to discuss).  These things do
require
> > attention but can be learned by a family member; however, if there is no
> one
> > but his wife and she has to work, then a professional would have to be
> > brought in.  This could be a home health care worker which may be
provided
> > by the county or city where he lives.  But he probably will need more
> > attention than these "drop-in" health care people can give.  Should not
be
> > giving medical advice for sure, but I would be fairly certain that the
> > feeding tube would be permanent since aspiration pneumonia is a threat.
> >
> > Mary Jo in Columbus, GA
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Larry Wilson" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 4:31 PM
> > Subject: Question
> >
> >
> > > I am getting smarter, but I have a question and hope someone can
answer
> > it.
> > > Again, I know this is a question for a Doctor but I am in Georgia and
my
> > PD
> > > brother is in Texas.
> > >
> > > He had pnemonia and Dr. put a feeding tube in his stomach.  Now he
feeds
> > > only through his stomach.  (Dr. had him do a barium swallow and found
he
> > was
> > > swallowing into his lungs.  )
> > >
> > > Question:  Is this a permanent method....or is there another
> arrangement?
> > > (In General)
> > >
> > > Larry
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Debra, don't know if this helps at all, but my mom has suffered severe
itching and rashes sometime after her right bleed stroke on Nov 27.  She also
suffered heat/cold spells, all of these maladies are getting less painful and
irritating.  The Dr.s don't know why....but she and I (with PD) have both
suffered brain damage.  It is the only link I can think of, the brain damage.
 You have suffered so much, I hope someone figures this out.  Rayilyn

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On 3 May 2002 at 16:12, Jann Bell wrote:

> Just curious . . . why can you not safely use a pill that has been
> broken in two as opposed to taking a pill that is scored?
>
> Also, does Canada regulate their drugs to the same standards we do?
>
> Jann
>

Hi Jann and Good Mornin' All,

This is an essay that pretty much says it all...

Prescription Drug Costs: Has Canada Found the Answer?
http://www.ncpa.org/ba/ba323/ba323.html

cheers ......... murray

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Hi Again Jann,

You may find these sites interesting....

How drugs are regulated in Canada
John Bowman and June Chua
CBC News Online, April 2001
http://cbc.ca/news/indepth/background/drug_regulation.html

and... the "Official" bafflegab....

Health Canada - Health Protection - Drug Products
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/english/protection/drugs.html

Therapeutic Products Directorate: Main English Page
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hpb-dgps/therapeut/htmleng/index.html

Therapeutic Products Policies
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hpb-dgps/therapeut/htmleng/policy.html

Therapeutic Products Guidelines
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hpb-dgps/therapeut/htmleng/guidmain.html

cheers .......... murray

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In a message dated 5/3/2002 10:40:02 PM, [log in to unmask] writes:

<< i listen to a radio show on wednesday nights - 11:15 pm - the steve and
joni show from chicago on wgn radio 720 on the am dial. >>

Thanks for this. Will try to pick it up on the internet. d

Regards,
Kathleen

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Rx Drug Studies
http://rxpolicy.com/studies.html

Scroll down and read...

The Profit In Pills
http://www.retiredamericans.org/theprofitinpills.pdf

cheers ....... murray

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Paula,
I have Norton anti virus program. Its symbol is right on my desk top.I
click on it just like any other program and the properties of the
program  get displayed. Among other things it gives me a choice of a
LIFE UPDATE and /or SCAN. Again under the SCAN option it gives me a
choice if you want to scan the entire computer or particular file etc. I
like Norton very much, it is so easy to follow a menu. After the scan is
completed which may take 1/2 hour or so, the status of the scan appears
with indication of a number of files scanned and if virus was found. You
can also get to your particular program  if its symbol is not on the
desk top through control panel. I scan any download individually before
opening up the program. Paula, I do not know if I explain it well, but I
hope it helps you to visualize.
Emily
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> emily, how do you run a scan on your computer?  thanks paula
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Emily and Julian Brinac" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 4:44 PM
> Subject: Re: hacking?
>
>
> > Lavanya,
> > I do not know enough about the computer. Hope some expert will
answer
> > your questions and we can all learn from it. What is interesting and
> > scary about your attachment, which does not appear to be yours at
all
> > although it had your email address, was the name DONATED
PRESCRIPTION.
> > We talked a lot  a few days ago about donated prescriptions.
Somebody
> > has been watching the exchange of information on DONATED
PRESCRIPTION;
> > could be some stranger to the List or a member. Having a good
software,
> > and/or following all precautions that Murray indicated, can give one
a
> > peace of mind.
> > I suggest that you do not undo your Outlook Express. Make sure that
you
> > run LIVE UPDATE of your software program to protect you against the
> > latest viruses, perhaps, once a week. After a life update run a scan
on
> > your entire computer.After the later you will be informed if the
viruses
> > were found, cleaned and/or quarantined. Until you hear from somebody
> > else, I thought I would give you my perspective.
> > Emily
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "vmehra" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:34 PM
> > Subject: hacking?
> >
> >
> > > Another question. In the past 2 days, I have got more than 50
mails
> > from
> > > different people and websites saying that the attachment i sent
them
> > has a
> > > virus. I never sent anyone any mail with an attachment and most of
the
> > sites
> > > I haven't even heard of. Now the attachment seems to be some Me
nude
> > MP3.
> > > Is this a virus or has someone hacked into my computer and sent
this
> > to the
> > > different people?
> > > Take care
> > > Lavanya
> > >
> >
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thank you so much, i really appreciate all that info    paula
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> Paula,
> I have Norton anti virus program. Its symbol is right on my desk top.I
> click on it just like any other program and the properties of the
> program  get displayed. Among other things it gives me a choice of a
> LIFE UPDATE and /or SCAN. Again under the SCAN option it gives me a
> choice if you want to scan the entire computer or particular file etc. I
> like Norton very much, it is so easy to follow a menu. After the scan is
> completed which may take 1/2 hour or so, the status of the scan appears
> with indication of a number of files scanned and if virus was found. You
> can also get to your particular program  if its symbol is not on the
> desk top through control panel. I scan any download individually before
> opening up the program. Paula, I do not know if I explain it well, but I
> hope it helps you to visualize.
> Emily
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "patandpaula" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 8:17 PM
> Subject: Re: hacking?
>
>
> > emily, how do you run a scan on your computer?  thanks paula
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Emily and Julian Brinac" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 4:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: hacking?
> >
> >
> > > Lavanya,
> > > I do not know enough about the computer. Hope some expert will
> answer
> > > your questions and we can all learn from it. What is interesting and
> > > scary about your attachment, which does not appear to be yours at
> all
> > > although it had your email address, was the name DONATED
> PRESCRIPTION.
> > > We talked a lot  a few days ago about donated prescriptions.
> Somebody
> > > has been watching the exchange of information on DONATED
> PRESCRIPTION;
> > > could be some stranger to the List or a member. Having a good
> software,
> > > and/or following all precautions that Murray indicated, can give one
> a
> > > peace of mind.
> > > I suggest that you do not undo your Outlook Express. Make sure that
> you
> > > run LIVE UPDATE of your software program to protect you against the
> > > latest viruses, perhaps, once a week. After a life update run a scan
> on
> > > your entire computer.After the later you will be informed if the
> viruses
> > > were found, cleaned and/or quarantined. Until you hear from somebody
> > > else, I thought I would give you my perspective.
> > > Emily
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "vmehra" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:34 PM
> > > Subject: hacking?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Another question. In the past 2 days, I have got more than 50
> mails
> > > from
> > > > different people and websites saying that the attachment i sent
> them
> > > has a
> > > > virus. I never sent anyone any mail with an attachment and most of
> the
> > > sites
> > > > I haven't even heard of. Now the attachment seems to be some Me
> nude
> > > MP3.
> > > > Is this a virus or has someone hacked into my computer and sent
> this
> > > to the
> > > > different people?
> > > > Take care
> > > > Lavanya
> > > >
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> I got the same thing last week and I have written to Dr. Abe Lieberman at
> Florida asking for his opinion on this.  They probably got our email
> addreses by contributing to the [log in to unmask]  .
> ********
> From: <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:10 AM
> Subject: non-PD:parkinson and its successful treatment
>
>
> > I just received an e-mail, to me individually, with this title,
parkinson
> and
> > its successful treatment, from <A
> HREF="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>.  This is an
> advertisement
> > for Giger MD Therapy for bladder control and for movement and
mobilization
> > therapy.  I am not listed with very many PD organizations, other than
this
> > list, and I would like to know where these people obtained my name.  I
> would
> > like to know if others on the list have also received the same
> advertisement.
> >  Katie
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On Friday, May 3, 2002, at 09:51  AM, nkporter wrote:

> Good Morning,
>
> Questions:  All the virus talk has started to worry me.
>
> 1. Is PIEN more or less targeted than other lists? Does any one have a
> basis for comparison?
>
> 2. What about Mac users?  Am I being too confident that the virus/worm
> targets do not include Macs?  And do Macintosh users on the list have
> detection and correction software?
>
> Nancy P


Nancy P.

I am not going to go into a lot of techno detail here. While it is
technically possible to write a virus for the listserv it is very highly
unlikely that anyone would want to, also I would assume the University
has a lot of other safegaurds to prevent any viruses on their mainframe
computers. The listserv is not a direct transmitter of viruses. ie a
virus written for the listserv would not likely work on Mac's or PC's,
also viruses written for Mac's and PC's are technically unlikely to work
on the listserv. The current viruses in most cases are transmitted from
one PC to another via the internet, email and it's address books.

Mac users have to worry only about viruses written for Mac's. There are
some Mac viruses, approx. 4,000 vs   60,000+  for PC's. My business runs
9 Mac's connected to the internet  24/7 and receive probably 1,000-
2,000 emails daily, and in 17 years we have seen only one worm, this was
10 years ago. We luckily were not infected at that time and for others
that were the worm was more of a nuisance than destructive. Independent
Software was written and distributed within a day to remove the
offending worm.  There are also Nortons and other Antivirus software for
the Mac's  however, for a business,  there are too many other
operational issues to make them run effectively, ie while they protected
the computer from viruses they also interfered and crashed the Operating
System software. For personal use they are adequate to prevent viruses.

Since nearly 90% of the viruses for PC's out there are related to a
consistent lack of security of Microsoft Software we have a Company
Policy that we do not permit the use of any Microsoft software on the
Mac's this includes  but is not limited to Microsoft Office, Entourage,
Word, Excel, Internet Explorer, Outlook, and Outlook Express.  This has
kept us 100% virus free without using any anti virus software to date.
While the Mac's cannot be directly affected for technical reasons by a
virus out there that is for PCs , Mac's can be retransmitters of PC
viruses to all our PC contacts quite unkowningly if we use Outlook
Express Email or Microsoft Office products on our Mac's.

If you want more detail or info on what alternative products we use etc.
you can email me directly.

So you have at least 56,000 reasons to worry less and enjoy your
computer more.

Don  53/4 pd+

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On Friday, May 3, 2002, at 07:53  PM, Robert A. Fink, M. D. wrote:
>
>
> It is insane to be online without a good virus program running.  It
> is like unsafe sex.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Bob
>

Bob


I sure do hope you meant--AntiVirus-- Program.
LOLOL

Cheers

Don

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took it about a year; stopped cold turkey; no problems (either increased
Permax or started Amantadine, I can't remember exactly)

Rees Jenkins

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>If you want more detail or info on what alternative products we use etc.
>you can email me directly.


Why not switch to Linux? works well
Maryse

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To All:

Would somebody comment why Outlook Express does not have adequate =
security to minimize possibility of viruses? From a number of comments =
the other email names were mentioned that are more secure.
Sometime ago I had NETSCAPE. In my opinion it was "rigid" and not as =
easy to use as Outlook Express. I must say I truly like Outlook Express =
but the security issues really bothers me.
Is there something in works to make Outlook Express more secure?(Are =
Windows aware of magnitude of problem?)
Emily

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there's a couple of things you can do - contact me off-list and ill go over
them with you

-t

----- Original Message -----
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> To All:
>
> Would somebody comment why Outlook Express does not have adequate security
to minimize possibility of viruses? From a number of comments the other
email names were mentioned that are more secure.
> Sometime ago I had NETSCAPE. In my opinion it was "rigid" and not as easy
to use as Outlook Express. I must say I truly like Outlook Express but the
security issues really bothers me.
> Is there something in works to make Outlook Express more secure?(Are
Windows aware of magnitude of problem?)
> Emily
>
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I refer to recent messages about voice activated computer software and =
wonder if the following might be of any interest to list members.  =
Allvoice is a firm based in Newton Abbot in the South West of England, =
but their products are available world wide:

" Julie=20
  As promised on Friday night, I am briefly going to describe the use =
and potential benefits of voice recognition and dictation software for =
people with Parkinson's disease.  No doubt it will raise a lot of =
questions - if you mailto:[log in to unmask] I will do my best to answer =
them.

  The main benefit of using dictation software is that it can minimise =
or even avoid the use of the computer keyboard and mouse.  This is =
obviously useful for anyone who finds this difficult because he cannot =
direct his hand movements accurately or suffers from tremor.  If set up =
and used correctly, dictation software can allow creation of documents =
in Microsoft Word, spreadsheets in Excel, presentations in PowerPoint =
and e-mails in Outlook as well as navigation around the internet. (I've =
given Microsoft examples, but it works with other applications as well). =
  Even mouse movements can be controlled by voice.

  There are two major systems available: ViaVoice Pro from IBM and =
Dragon NaturallySpeaking which is made by ScanSoft.  There are other =
packages available but frankly they are just not up to the job.  Most =
people with disabilities involving hand and arm movements find NatSpeak =
the better solution but it depends on what use is made of it - ViaVoice =
might be preferable for intensive internet operations.

  There are various editions of both systems - IBM ViaVoice Pro is =
available as version 8 with a conventional headset microphone or version =
9 which has a headset connecting to the computer's USB port.  Both are =
priced at =A389 in the UK.  NatSpeak is more complicated - the Preferred =
edition version 6 is priced at =A3139 but there is also a Professional =
edition at =A3449 which offers just about total hands free control of =
the computer for those that need it.  If supplied with a new computer =
system it is still possible to offer version 5 of both NatSpeak =
editions, which are quite a lot cheaper - but you don't get a manual =
with this slightly older version and it can't be supplied just on its =
own; it has to be packaged with hardware to qualify for a licence.

  Now, downsides - firstly, all these applications need lots of power.  =
Ignore what it says on the boxes, we don't recommend running ViaVoice or =
NatSpeak on less than a Pentium III 600 with 256mb RAM and more =
processing power is good if available.  Any new computer should be well =
over this level at least for processor speed if not memory, but a =
machine bought a couple of years ago is likely to fall short.

  Secondly, for effective use it is important that the software is set =
up correctly and the user trained to get the best out of it, and =
personal training isn't cheap.  We charge =A3495 per day in mainland =
England & Wales - this is one-to-one hands-on training in your home or =
workplace and on your computer which is really the only way to do it.  =
If someone is already "computer literate" it is possible to set it up =
and train yourself (both ViaVoice and NatSpeak v6 have good manuals) but =
someone coming to it "cold" may struggle and even quit before getting to =
grips with the software.  This is especially important if the person's =
voice is quiet, slurred, or varies in tone or volume during the day =
(when getting tired for example).  Support is also important.

  We can supply the software anywhere in the UK or abroad, but both =
NaturallySpeaking and ViaVoice are available from suppliers around the =
world and in local languages such as French, Italian, Spanish etc.  Our =
training services obviously are restricted to the UK.  The quoted prices =
are valid for May 2002 and exclude VAT, but if the software is supplied =
to resolve a problem directly related to a disability we can usually =
supply without charging VAT - we just need a suitable declaration to =
this effect.

  I hope this is helpful.  More information is on our web site =
www.allvoice.co.uk=20

  Jon Miles=20

  Customer Services=20
  AllVoice Computing plc=20

  This message may have been dictated to my computer using AllVoice =
WordExpress.  No dictation software is perfect and you may notice the =
occasional incorrect word.  I apologise for any missed takes which may =
occur.

  This message is intended to be confidential and may be legally =
privileged.  It is intended solely for the addressee.  If you are not =
the intended recipient, please delete this message from your system and =
notify us immediately.  Unless specifically indicated otherwise, any =
disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken or omitted to be taken =
in reliance on this message is prohibited and may be unlawful.

  AllVoice operate virus checking on its network, but the onus is on the =
recipient to scan any attachments for viruses and AllVoice Computing plc =
accepts no responsibility for any infected files which may be =
transmitted."

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Emily:
I'm not attempting to answer your specific questions, but I offer the
following.  I have used OE for years and have had only one bad virus
experience.  I keep current on Windows and OE maintenance as recommended by
Microsoft.  I also use a suite of 'virus' software products and keep it
current per the vendor's recommendation (daily sometimes).  I'll stick with
OE for function and with McAfee for security and virus protection.

Lanny Weddel
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----- Original Message -----
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> To All:
>
> Would somebody comment why Outlook Express does not have adequate security
to minimize possibility of viruses? From a number of comments the other
email names were mentioned that are more secure.
> Sometime ago I had NETSCAPE. In my opinion it was "rigid" and not as easy
to use as Outlook Express. I must say I truly like Outlook Express but the
security issues really bothers me.
> Is there something in works to make Outlook Express more secure?(Are
Windows aware of magnitude of problem?)
> Emily
>
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I read the info about Viavoice etc.  My co workers are very happy with
the voice  recognition program that is native (included) in Windows XP.
I will begin working with the program extensively in June and will keep
the list posted in terms of ease of use, etc.
Scott Burnett

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Dear friends,

I couldn't wait any longer to announce to the list that the
Houston Area Parkinson Society has gone on line!

If you'd like to find out more about HAPS (which does some
pretty fantastic things), please check it out. You can reach

it by going to

http://hapsonline.org/

You may not know that I spend an inordinate (since I don't
profess to being a writer) amount of time writing and
composing the newsletter for HAPS.  Now my husband, Joe, has

put my writing up for the world and everyone to see.

I do a lot of research for my articles (the difference
between plagiarism and research ...  plagiarism is when you
copy from one person, research is when you copy from many!)
Anyway, if you're interested, while you're there, you can
check out some previous articles and newsletters I've
written. We still have more to add so keep checking it out!

All my love and gratitude for your being there for me to
share this with all of you,

nina brown






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I have McAfee on line and it seems to catch all the virus's (have to keep it
updated) including the ones sent by the parkinson's Information Exchange (I
think they came through that network).  Go to www.McAfee.Com for more
information.  There are several good security software programs out there.
This is the one I use.

Larry



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> there's a couple of things you can do - contact me off-list and ill go
over
> them with you
>
> -t
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Emily and Julian Brinac" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 7:45 AM
> Subject: Outlook Express Security
>
>
> > To All:
> >
> > Would somebody comment why Outlook Express does not have adequate
security
> to minimize possibility of viruses? From a number of comments the other
> email names were mentioned that are more secure.
> > Sometime ago I had NETSCAPE. In my opinion it was "rigid" and not as
easy
> to use as Outlook Express. I must say I truly like Outlook Express but the
> security issues really bothers me.
> > Is there something in works to make Outlook Express more secure?(Are
> Windows aware of magnitude of problem?)
> > Emily
> >
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Billie Cook passed away this morning at 7; am
The cause was related to PD

Bacel Cook

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"And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light
of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and hey shall reign for ever
and ever."

Olga
PWP 49/47/40 and CG for my own
Hungary
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**May peace of heart fill all your days, may serenity grace your soul.**






----Eredeti üzenet----
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Tárgy: Another loss


Billie Cook passed away this morning at 7; am
The cause was related to PD

Bacel Cook

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My heartfelt condolences to the Cook family.

Bonnie
http://www.geocities.com/sparklelist
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> Billie Cook passed away this morning at 7; am
> The cause was related to PD
>
> Bacel Cook
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---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
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In a message dated 5/5/2002 2:24:39 PM, [log in to unmask] writes:

<< Billie Cook passed away this morning at 7; am
The cause was related to PD

Bacel Cook >>

Sincere condolences on the loss of Billie. I echo Olga's wish for peace of
heart.

With sympathy,
Kathleen

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I am very sorry to hear that.
My condolences to your family and friends.
Take care
Lavanya

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Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 11:53 PM
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> Billie Cook passed away this morning at 7; am
> The cause was related to PD
>
> Bacel Cook
>
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Hi friends:
  Is Outlook Express strictly with a Dell computer?  If not, then how do I
switch my Outlook Express to work with my AOL?  It was orginally programmed
with my Dellnet but we now no longer subscribe to Dellnet..  Any info would
be appreciated.
  Thanks, Diana

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Thank you for sharing your loss with us. I am truly sorry.
Emily

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My heartfelt condolences and syumpathy to the Cook family.
Brightline.
**************
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> In a message dated 5/5/2002 2:24:39 PM, [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> << Billie Cook passed away this morning at 7; am
> The cause was related to PD
>
> Bacel Cook >>
>
> Sincere condolences on the loss of Billie. I echo Olga's wish for peace of
> heart.
>
> With sympathy,
> Kathleen
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Hi! Nina:
    Thanks for the info.  I enjoyed your newsletters very much.  Contains a
lot of very useful information.
Brightline
*****************
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Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 12:06 PM
Subject: EXCITING ANNOUNCEMENT!


> Dear friends,
>
> I couldn't wait any longer to announce to the list that the
> Houston Area Parkinson Society has gone on line!
>
> If you'd like to find out more about HAPS (which does some
> pretty fantastic things), please check it out. You can reach
>
> it by going to
>
> http://hapsonline.org/
>
> You may not know that I spend an inordinate (since I don't
> profess to being a writer) amount of time writing and
> composing the newsletter for HAPS.  Now my husband, Joe, has
>
> put my writing up for the world and everyone to see.
>
> I do a lot of research for my articles (the difference
> between plagiarism and research ...  plagiarism is when you
> copy from one person, research is when you copy from many!)
> Anyway, if you're interested, while you're there, you can
> check out some previous articles and newsletters I've
> written. We still have more to add so keep checking it out!
>
> All my love and gratitude for your being there for me to
> share this with all of you,
>
> nina brown
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Please Copy My New E-Mail Address to your Address Book...

NEW: "Murray Charters" <[log in to unmask]>

[]      []      []      []      []      []      []      []      []

Please Delete My Old Address from any File or Address Book...

OLD: "Murray Charters" <[log in to unmask]>

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Another new book on Parkinson's Disease has been published this month -
"A Life Shaken : My encounter with Parkinson's Disease" by Joel Havemann,
published by Johns Hopkins University Press.   Havemann is an  editor for
the LA Times' Washington D.C. bureau, a young onset PWP, and a truly
gifted writer.

I started reading the book last night and couldn't put it down.  The
author relates his personal story about life with PD, about coping as a
family, and keeping up with a demanding job, intertwined with engrossing
facts on the history of PD, brain physiology, treatment, research, and
more. I could easily recognize and identify with many of the reactions
and emotions Havemann described when first diagnosed  and as the disease
progressed. Readers may also be surprised to discover accounts about some
long-time Parkinsn list members -- I won't tell which ones -- Read the
book!

I highly recommend this book to both the  newly diagnosed and  "veteran"
PWP - we can all learn a great deal from it, and it is a great read as
well. The book is available on Amazon.

Linda Herman

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Ervin J. McCarthy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 6:38 PM
Subject: Address Book Protection


> I don't know if this works but it sure sounds logical...
>
> Jerry Miller
>
> *******************
>
> HOW TO PROTECT YOUR ADDRESS BOOK!
>
> I learned a computer trick today that's really ingenious in
> it simplicity. As you may know, when/if a worm virus gets
> into your computer it heads straight for your email address
> book, and sends itself to everyone in there, thus infecting
> all your friends and associates. This trick won't keep the
> virus from getting into your computer, but it will stop it
> from using your address book to spread further, and it will
> alert you to the fact, that the worm has gotten into your
> system.
>
> Here's what you do: first, open your address book and click
> on  "new contact" just as you would do if you were adding a
> new friend to your list of email addresses. In the window
> where you would type your friend's first name, type in
> AAAAAAA.  In the window below where it prompts you to enter
> the new email address, type in [log in to unmask]
> Then complete everything by clicking add, enter, ok, etc.
>
> Now, here's what you've done and why it works: The "name"
> AAAAAAA will be placed at the top of your address book as
> entry #1. This will be where the worm will start in an
> effort to send itself to all your friends. But when it tries
> to send itself to AAAAAAA, it will be undeliverable because
> of the phony email address you entered
> ([log in to unmask]). If the first attempt fails
> (which it will because of the phony address), the worm goes
> no further and your friends will not be infected.
>
> Here's the second great advantage of this method: If an
> email cannot be delivered, you will be notified of this in
> your InBox almost immediately. Hence, if you ever get an
> email spelling you that an email addressed to
> [log in to unmask] could not be delivered, you know
> right away that you have the worm virus in your system. You
> can then take steps to get rid of it! Pretty slick huh?
>
> If everybody you know does this then you needn't ever worry
> about opening mail from friends.
>
>                                      Pass this on to all
> your friends.
>
>
>

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Bacel Cook,
My prayers are with you!  I think Olga said it beautifully, and I echo her
thoughts.
Debra
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Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: Another loss


"And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light
of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and hey shall reign for ever
and ever."

Olga
PWP 49/47/40 and CG for my own
Hungary
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**May peace of heart fill all your days, may serenity grace your soul.**






----Eredeti üzenet----
Feladó: Billie Cook <[log in to unmask]>
Címzett: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Dátum: 2002. május 5. 20:24
Tárgy: Another loss


Billie Cook passed away this morning at 7; am
The cause was related to PD

Bacel Cook

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In a message dated 5/5/2002 9:45:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> Now, here's what you've done and why it works: The "name"
> > AAAAAAA will be placed at the top of your address book as
> > entry #1

I have a problem.  My address book for some reason known only to it, places
certain names at the top of the list regardless of alphabetical position.
The AAAAAA address landed in 7th place.  Anybody know how I can fix this?
Eleanor

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Good Mornin' All,
Here's the overnight news......

Cheers ............ murray

* * *

ARTICLE: Stem Cell Transplant For Diabetes Soon
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/holnus/08051605.htm

ARTICLE: US Senate Debates Cloning Legislation
http://www.voanews.com/mediastore/berman_wash_cloning_debate_05may02.ram

ARTICLE: Janet Reno's Down-Home Approach
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33734-2002May4.html

ARTICLE: Scientists Offer Glimpse of Embryo-Free Drugs Research
http://news.independent.co.uk/business/news/story.jsp?story=291904

OPINION: Double Jeopardy - Can It Be a Crime to Seek Treatment
For A Deadly Disease?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30963-2002May4.html

OPINION: Therapeutic Cloning Must Go Forward
http://www.sltrib.com/05052002/commenta/733847.htm

ARTICLE: Way to Change Human Cells Without Cloning
http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/cybernews/story/0,1870,117636,00.html?

ARTICLE: Sen. Thurmond Backs Cloning Research
http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/05/03/thurmond.cloning/index.html

STORY: Some days bitter, some days sweet: They never intended
to share their life with Parkinson's disease...
http://www.tennessean.com/local/archives/02/05/17122121.shtml?Element_ID=17122121

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To Eleanor and the list,

I just tried the "worm-proofing" trick and found the AAAAAAA address was
placed second in my address book, but at least not 7th.  Then I
discovered an extra space in front of the top name on the list.  When I
deleted the extra space, alphabetical order was restored. Maybe you have
the same problem?

Nancy Porter


>In a message dated 5/5/2002 9:45:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>[log in to unmask] writes:
>
>
>> Now, here's what you've done and why it works: The "name"
>> > AAAAAAA will be placed at the top of your address book as
>> > entry #1
>
>I have a problem.  My address book for some reason known only to it, places
>certain names at the top of the list regardless of alphabetical position.
>The AAAAAA address landed in 7th place.  Anybody know how I can fix this?
>Eleanor
>
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In a message dated 5/5/2002 9:45:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> > *******************
> >
> > HOW TO PROTECT YOUR ADDRESS BOOK!

I sent an e-mail saying my address book wouldn't put the AAAAAA address first
and asking if anyone know how to fix it.  Well, thanks anyway, but I figured
out what the problem was and fixed it.  OK, to be perfectly honest, I found
it the way I usually find things, by looking around 'til I find something
that looks likely and this time I got lucky. :-)))
Eleanor

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In a message dated 5/6/2002 12:22:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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>
> deleted the extra space, alphabetical order was restored. Maybe you have
> the same problem?
>

I looked in Mail Preferences and there's a box to check to have the address
book Auto-Suggest e-mail addresses.  When I unchecked the box and re-entered
the addresses, they all went where they were supposed to.
Eleanor

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Hi all,

A nationwide Medicare coverage decision for bilateral deep brain
stimulation in the subthalamic nucleus (STN) for treatment of Parkinson’s
 is currently pending in the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid  Services
(CMS). The request for a decision was initiated by Dr. Barry Green, who
some of you may also know as editor of Parkinsonian People newspaper.  If
CMS issues a nationwide Medicare coverage decision for DBS, it would
become binding on all Medicare carriers, throughout the country.
Currently about 50% of the states have a state-wide coverage policy. In
the others Medicare coverage is decided on a case by case basis.

For more information  and background see - www.grassrootsconnection.com

The next steps in the process:

1. On  June 12, 2002 the Medical and Surgical Panel  of  the Medicare
Coverage Advisory Committee  (MCAC)  will meet in Baltimore to “ discuss
the quality of evidence regarding the use of deep brain stimulation for
the treatment of Parkinson's disease."
(See notice of meeting  below)

2. The panel will provide their advice and  recommendations to the MCAC
Execuctive Committee, which will review and consider the panel's
recommendations at its next meeting. The Committee will then advise the
Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) on whether adequate
evidence exists to determine if  DBS treatment for Parkinson's is
reasonable and necessary under Medicare law.

3.CMS will them make the final Coverage Decision.

The following meeting notice  about the June 12th panel meeting appeared
in the Federal Register : April 26, 2002 (Volume 67, Number 81)]
[Notices] [ Page 20801-20802]
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DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
[CMS-3097-N]
Medicare Program; Meeting of the Medical and Surgical Procedures
Panel of the Medicare Coverage Advisory Committee--June 12, 2002
AGENCY: Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), HHS.
ACTION: Notice of meeting.
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SUMMARY: This notice announces a public meeting of the Medical and
Surgical Procedures Panel (the Panel) of the Medicare Coverage Advisory
Committee (the Committee). The Panel provides advice and
recommendations to the Committee about clinical issues. The Committee
advises us on whether adequate evidence exists to determine whether
specific medical items and services are reasonable and necessary under
Medicare law. The panel will discuss the quality of evidence regarding
the use of deep brain stimulation for the treatment of Parkinson's
disease. In addition, the panel will make recommendations concerning
the issues presented. Notice of this meeting is given under the Federal
Advisory Committee Act (5 U.S.C. App. 2, section 10(a)(1) and (a)(2)).

DATES: Meeting Date: The public meeting announced in this notice will
be held on Wednesday, June 12, 2002, from 7:30 a.m. to 3 p.m., E.D.T.

 Deadline for Presentations and Comments: May 31, 2002, 5 p.m., E.D.T.
Special Accommodations: Persons attending the meeting who are
hearing or visually impaired, or have a condition that requires special
assistance or accommodations, are asked to notify the Executive
Secretary,

[[Page 20802]]
CMS Office of Clinical Standards and Quality, by May 24, 2002 (see FOR
FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT).

ADDRESSES: The Meeting: The meeting will be held at the Baltimore
Convention Center, Room 337-338, One West Pratt Street, Baltimore, MD
21201.

Presentations and Comments: Submit formal presentations and written
comments to:
Michelle Atkinson, Executive Secretary,
CMS Office of Clinical Standards and Quality at telephone number (410)
786-2881,
or
e-mail address [log in to unmask],
or via regular mail at:
Office of  Clinical Standards and Quality, Centers for Medicare &
Medicaid
Services, 7500 Security Boulevard, Mail Stop C1-09-06, Baltimore,
Maryland 21244

Hotline: You may access current information about this meeting on
the CMS Advisory Committee Information Hotline, 1-877-449-5659 (toll
free) or in the Baltimore area (410) 786-9379.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Michelle Atkinson, (410) 786-2881,
[log in to unmask]

II. Meeting Format

    This meeting is open to the public. The Panel will hear oral
presentations from the public for approximately 45 minutes. The Panel
may limit the number and duration of oral presentations to the time
available.

If you wish to make formal presentations, you must notify
the Executive Secretary named in the FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT
section, and submit the following by the Deadline for Presentations and
Comments date listed in the DATES section of this notice: a brief
statement addressing the general nature of the evidence or arguments
you wish to present, the names and addresses of proposed participants,
and an estimate of time required to make the presentation. A written
copy of your presentation must be provided to each Panel member before
offering your public comments. We will request that you disclose at the
meeting whether or not you have any financial involvement with
manufacturers of any items or services being discussed (or with their
competitors).

The Panel will deliberate openly about the issues discussed after
public and CMS presentations. Interested persons may observe the
deliberations, but the Panel will not hear further comments during this
time except at the request of the chairperson.

 The Panel will also allow a 15-minute unscheduled open public session
for attendees to
address issues specific to the topic.

At the conclusion of the day, the members will vote and the Panel will
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Attention to Murray:
Murray, would you know where we stand with DBS OHIP coverage in CANADA?
Emily
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:13 AM
Subject: Medicare coverage of DBS for Parkinson's


> Hi all,
>
> A nationwide Medicare coverage decision for bilateral deep brain
> stimulation in the subthalamic nucleus (STN) for treatment of
Parkinson's
>  is currently pending in the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid
Services
> (CMS). The request for a decision was initiated by Dr. Barry Green,
who
> some of you may also know as editor of Parkinsonian People newspaper.
If
> CMS issues a nationwide Medicare coverage decision for DBS, it would
> become binding on all Medicare carriers, throughout the country.
> Currently about 50% of the states have a state-wide coverage policy.
In
> the others Medicare coverage is decided on a case by case basis.
>
> For more information  and background see -
www.grassrootsconnection.com
>
> The next steps in the process:
>
> 1. On  June 12, 2002 the Medical and Surgical Panel  of  the Medicare
> Coverage Advisory Committee  (MCAC)  will meet in Baltimore to "
discuss
> the quality of evidence regarding the use of deep brain stimulation
for
> the treatment of Parkinson's disease."
> (See notice of meeting  below)
>
> 2. The panel will provide their advice and  recommendations to the
MCAC
> Execuctive Committee, which will review and consider the panel's
> recommendations at its next meeting. The Committee will then advise
the
> Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) on whether adequate
> evidence exists to determine if  DBS treatment for Parkinson's is
> reasonable and necessary under Medicare law.
>
> 3.CMS will them make the final Coverage Decision.
>
> The following meeting notice  about the June 12th panel meeting
appeared
> in the Federal Register : April 26, 2002 (Volume 67, Number 81)]
> [Notices] [ Page 20801-20802]
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
> Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
> [CMS-3097-N]
> Medicare Program; Meeting of the Medical and Surgical Procedures
> Panel of the Medicare Coverage Advisory Committee--June 12, 2002
> AGENCY: Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), HHS.
> ACTION: Notice of meeting.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>
> SUMMARY: This notice announces a public meeting of the Medical and
> Surgical Procedures Panel (the Panel) of the Medicare Coverage
Advisory
> Committee (the Committee). The Panel provides advice and
> recommendations to the Committee about clinical issues. The Committee
> advises us on whether adequate evidence exists to determine whether
> specific medical items and services are reasonable and necessary under
> Medicare law. The panel will discuss the quality of evidence regarding
> the use of deep brain stimulation for the treatment of Parkinson's
> disease. In addition, the panel will make recommendations concerning
> the issues presented. Notice of this meeting is given under the
Federal
> Advisory Committee Act (5 U.S.C. App. 2, section 10(a)(1) and (a)(2)).
>
> DATES: Meeting Date: The public meeting announced in this notice will
> be held on Wednesday, June 12, 2002, from 7:30 a.m. to 3 p.m., E.D.T.
>
>  Deadline for Presentations and Comments: May 31, 2002, 5 p.m., E.D.T.
> Special Accommodations: Persons attending the meeting who are
> hearing or visually impaired, or have a condition that requires
special
> assistance or accommodations, are asked to notify the Executive
> Secretary,
>
> [[Page 20802]]
> CMS Office of Clinical Standards and Quality, by May 24, 2002 (see FOR
> FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT).
>
> ADDRESSES: The Meeting: The meeting will be held at the Baltimore
> Convention Center, Room 337-338, One West Pratt Street, Baltimore, MD
> 21201.
>
> Presentations and Comments: Submit formal presentations and written
> comments to:
> Michelle Atkinson, Executive Secretary,
> CMS Office of Clinical Standards and Quality at telephone number (410)
> 786-2881,
> or
> e-mail address [log in to unmask],
> or via regular mail at:
> Office of  Clinical Standards and Quality, Centers for Medicare &
> Medicaid
> Services, 7500 Security Boulevard, Mail Stop C1-09-06, Baltimore,
> Maryland 21244
>
> Hotline: You may access current information about this meeting on
> the CMS Advisory Committee Information Hotline, 1-877-449-5659 (toll
> free) or in the Baltimore area (410) 786-9379.
>
> FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Michelle Atkinson, (410) 786-2881,
> [log in to unmask]
>
> II. Meeting Format
>
>     This meeting is open to the public. The Panel will hear oral
> presentations from the public for approximately 45 minutes. The Panel
> may limit the number and duration of oral presentations to the time
> available.
>
> If you wish to make formal presentations, you must notify
> the Executive Secretary named in the FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT
> section, and submit the following by the Deadline for Presentations
and
> Comments date listed in the DATES section of this notice: a brief
> statement addressing the general nature of the evidence or arguments
> you wish to present, the names and addresses of proposed participants,
> and an estimate of time required to make the presentation. A written
> copy of your presentation must be provided to each Panel member before
> offering your public comments. We will request that you disclose at
the
> meeting whether or not you have any financial involvement with
> manufacturers of any items or services being discussed (or with their
> competitors).
>
> The Panel will deliberate openly about the issues discussed after
> public and CMS presentations. Interested persons may observe the
> deliberations, but the Panel will not hear further comments during
this
> time except at the request of the chairperson.
>
>  The Panel will also allow a 15-minute unscheduled open public session
> for attendees to
> address issues specific to the topic.
>
> At the conclusion of the day, the members will vote and the Panel will
> make its recommendation.
>
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Hello,
Well that wasn't quite the way my Virus worked. I had just downloaded the
laterst version of Internet Explorer and there all the Outlook Express files
got updated too. All the addresses stored in the address book got deleted.
But when the virus hit the computer, my address book being empty didnt
matter. Viruses as I have learnt now may just at random hit different mails
and sites.
take care
Lavanya

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Date:         Mon, 6 May 2002 08:40:50 -0400
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Lavanya,
Will see what the experts say about. this. When I updated my Internet
Explorer and Outlook Express got update, my address stored and the
address book did not get deleted. Is it possible though that the
addresses were hidden and they were not actually deleted? May we get
HELP out there!
Emily
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Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 8:19 AM
Subject: Address Book Protection


> Hello,
> Well that wasn't quite the way my Virus worked. I had just downloaded
the
> laterst version of Internet Explorer and there all the Outlook Express
files
> got updated too. All the addresses stored in the address book got
deleted.
> But when the virus hit the computer, my address book being empty didnt
> matter. Viruses as I have learnt now may just at random hit different
mails
> and sites.
> take care
> Lavanya
>
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Wow, thanks for the link. I attend several Medicaid Updates throughout the
year, in my capacity of a Rural Health Care Educator. sounds like we are all
searching for way to provide better, more accessible health care to the poor
and elderly.
Jann

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Thanks for this info about unscored broken pills. I will check with my
doctor about getting a lesser dose (I am breaking each of my pills into
halves). Perhaps, there are alternatives for me.

Jann

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ONE OF THE BEST I HAVE READ.  SHE HAS SAID WHAT I HAVE SAID OVER THE =
YEARS. TILL WE WALK IN OTHER SHOE U CAN NOT SAY HOW THEY ARE.  SOME OF =
THE TALK SHOES THAT FOLS SAY WHAT THE SAY MAKES ME GLAD I ONLY HAVE PD.  =
THANKS BUNNY
  =20
                                         I.Y.Q. DON & VIVIAN

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Emily

The upgrade normally should have located the old address book file and
used it if it was there.  Yes it is possible as people play with the
locations and names of their data files that the upgrade could not find
it. This is where backing up your data files in a off computer location
ie floppy or zip drives or burn to a cd becomes very important  as then
you will not loose critical and important data. I am not trying to be an
alarmist but reality is that the viruses are getting quite sophisticated
out there now and can if designed so wipe out any address book data file
in a few seconds after mailing out viruses to everyone on it.  Some of
the recent viruses can actually disable your virus checking software and
delete some of its files making virus checking software unusable.

The blank or fake address name in position 1 worked about 2- 3 years ago
on a specific virus and still does for this specific type of virus,
however today the viruses don't care and are unaffected by fake or dummy
addresses in any place in your address book. They can also randomize
send dates and can randomize who they will send the virus to.

Let me briefly quote from our latest virus tech bulletin as to how
sophisticated these have become.
This is from the latest KLEZ virus.
"The author has changed enough of the bits to get past most virus
programs,"
"In many circumstances, the worm doesn't need the victim to open it in
order to run. Instead, it takes advantage of a 12-month-old
vulnerability in Microsoft Outlook, known as the Automatic Execution of
Embedded MIME Type bug, to open itself automatically on unpatched
versions of Outlook."

  NOTE: This is Outlook not Outlook Express. A comment here is that
anyone may have an old unused version of Outlook sitting on their
computer which will facilitate and make this virus thrive without your
knowledge at all. I would recommend that if you DON'T use Outlook which
is installed by Microsoft Office or was the standard Windows email
program installed a few years ago; to uninstall it or use Windows -
remove programs to remove it from the hard drive.  IF you are using
Outlook then please ensure all the latest security updates have been
installed.

"The program will also cull e-mail addresses by searching a host of
different file types on the infected PC. Using its own mail program, the
worm will send itself off to those e-mail addresses. In addition, it
will use the addresses to create a fake "From:" field in the e-mail
message, disguising the actual source of the e-mail.

Finally, the worm attempts to disable antivirus software by deleting
registry keys, stopping running processes and removing virus-definition
files."

The AntiVirus software makers have updated their software so the virus
cannot disable them and have updated their antivirus software to
identify and remove the virus. Thats why it is so important not only to
ensure everyone's virus definitions and virus checkers are up to date
but that ALL the security patches for browsers and email software issued
by Microsoft be downloaded, updated and installed when they are released!


Don




On Monday, May 6, 2002, at 07:40  AM, Emily and Julian Brinac wrote:

> Lavanya,
> Will see what the experts say about. this. When I updated my Internet
> Explorer and Outlook Express got update, my address stored and the
> address book did not get deleted. Is it possible though that the
> addresses were hidden and they were not actually deleted? May we get
> HELP out there!
> Emily
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "vmehra" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 8:19 AM
> Subject: Address Book Protection
>
>
>> Hello,
>> Well that wasn't quite the way my Virus worked. I had just downloaded
> the
>> laterst version of Internet Explorer and there all the Outlook Express
> files
>> got updated too. All the addresses stored in the address book got
> deleted.
>> But when the virus hit the computer, my address book being empty didnt
>> matter. Viruses as I have learnt now may just at random hit different
> mails
>> and sites.
>> take care
>> Lavanya
>>
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I had about 300 mails saved in there. All of the stuff that Murray
sends......none of his mails were ever deleted. Plus names of some books
that people post etc.
All of that was in the inbox and all of that gone when I updated. Doug and
Karyn tried to help me get the things back but didnt find it.
Take care
Lavanya
----- Original Message -----
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To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: Address Book Protection


> Lavanya,
> Will see what the experts say about. this. When I updated my Internet
> Explorer and Outlook Express got update, my address stored and the
> address book did not get deleted. Is it possible though that the
> addresses were hidden and they were not actually deleted? May we get
> HELP out there!
> Emily
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "vmehra" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 8:19 AM
> Subject: Address Book Protection
>
>
> > Hello,
> > Well that wasn't quite the way my Virus worked. I had just downloaded
> the
> > laterst version of Internet Explorer and there all the Outlook Express
> files
> > got updated too. All the addresses stored in the address book got
> deleted.
> > But when the virus hit the computer, my address book being empty didnt
> > matter. Viruses as I have learnt now may just at random hit different
> mails
> > and sites.
> > take care
> > Lavanya
> >
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WELL SHE GOT IT TODAY.  NO CANCER  NO CANCER  THE DOC SAID HE WAS SORRY =
ABOUT HER LAST TEST. BUT THE ALL BE FOR SAID SHE NEEDED IT.  SHE WILL SO =
OFTEN  PASS A LITTLE BLOOD.  HAS A SMALL TUMOR BUT NOT TO WORRY IF SHE =
WAS 20 YEARS OR SO SHE WOULD ENJOY IT.  AND EDITH LOVE SENT MOM VERY =
PRETTY CARD SHE IS GOING TO FRAME IT. & TO THANK U ALL FOR U R PRAYERS. =
& ART SHE SAID SHE WAS NOT BILL CLINTON  IN GOOD WAY LO LO  SO U SEE WHY =
WE MCKINLEYS LIKE THE LIST.  THE HELP & PRAYERS  & OUR COOKS GO OUT TO =
THEM.=20

                                               I.Y.Q.  DON & VIVIAN

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Hi all,
I'd like to take a brief moment to remind PIEN list members about SPARKLE,
which stands for
Smiling
PARKies
Live
Easier

This list was created to take some of the presssure off of the main PD list. SPARKLE is for jokes, greetings of all kinds, fun & banter, chit chat, computer help & even PD talk. We have yet to reject a topic for discussion. :-)

You may join thru our webpage at
http://www.geocities.com/sparklelist
or send a blank email to
[log in to unmask]

Bonnie Rowley [log in to unmask]
Co-owner along with
Hans van der Genugten <[log in to unmask]>


---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
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Thanks, Ervin, very clever idea. Rayilyn

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HALLELUJAH!


Olga
PWP 49/47/40 and CG for my own
Hungary
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**May peace of heart fill all your days, may serenity grace your soul.**

----Eredeti üzenet----
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Tárgy: VIVIANS DOCTOR REPORT


WELL SHE GOT IT TODAY.  NO CANCER  NO CANCER  THE DOC SAID HE WAS SORRY
ABOUT HER LAST TEST. BUT THE ALL BE FOR SAID SHE NEEDED IT.  SHE WILL SO
OFTEN  PASS A LITTLE BLOOD.  HAS A SMALL TUMOR BUT NOT TO WORRY IF SHE WAS
20 YEARS OR SO SHE WOULD ENJOY IT.  AND EDITH LOVE SENT MOM VERY PRETTY CARD
SHE IS GOING TO FRAME IT. & TO THANK U ALL FOR U R PRAYERS. & ART SHE SAID
SHE WAS NOT BILL CLINTON  IN GOOD WAY LO LO  SO U SEE WHY WE MCKINLEYS LIKE
THE LIST.  THE HELP & PRAYERS  & OUR COOKS GO OUT TO THEM.

                                               I.Y.Q.  DON & VIVIAN

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> I had about 300 mails saved in there. All of the stuff that Murray
> sends......none of his mails were ever deleted. Plus names of some
> books that people post etc. All of that was in the inbox and all of
> that gone when I updated. Doug and Karyn tried to help me get the
> things back but didnt find it. Take care Lavanya ----

And that is *exactly* why your contracting of the virus was such a
disaster.  The virus grabs hold of messages saved in your inbox and
sends them out to the contents of your address book.

DO NOT leave any messages in your inbox after reading them.  Delete
the ones that you do not wish to save; and place the ones that you
wish to save into a specific folder created for such.


Best,

Bob

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Robert A. Fink, M. D., F.A.C.S., P. C.
2500 Milvia Street  Suite 222
Berkeley, California  94704-2636
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In a message dated 5/6/2002 4:03:15 PM, [log in to unmask] writes:

<< NO CANCER  NO CANCER >>

HURRAY! Let us all rejoice.

Don and Vivian, here's to you. Time to celebrate!

Best wishes,
Kathleen

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Met today with congressman Rob Andrews the representative from the 1st =
district in NJ. He is very knowledgeable about cloning and stem cell =
research.

He strongly supports Kennedy- Feingold and strongly opposes Brownback. =
He studied the subject in depth when it was voted on in the house last =
year.

I told him of the upcoming conference and of possible "Parky's" stopping =
by on the 21st. He indicated that he will be happy to see anyone who =
stops by. Unfortunately I am experiencing severe back pains and can't =
make it

Score one  for the good guys.

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My sincere condolences on the loss of Billie. May peace abide.  Jo Ann

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Nina - Congratulations on your new on-line material.  And by the way, I
receive your newletter every month, and you are a GREAT writer.  Glad to
know Joe is better. Jo Ann Coen

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I have a friend looking for a support group in West Covina, CA.  Can anyone
help  with a number to call?

jjjane

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Oh, Don.  Thank goodness for Vi's dx.  Yes, prayer does work, not only
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Eleanor - I'm on Juno, and when I place a new address in my book, it
always shows at the top.  Then I go to the name of the column that says
"name", click once and everything goes into alphabetical order.  Hope it
works for you.  Jo Ann

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My old computer crashed so many times, I wrote my addresses in a tablet,
so I would have a more permanent just incase my new one crashed.  Thank
goodness it hasn't yet.  Jo Ann

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Good Mornin' All,
Here's the overnight news......

Cheers ............ murray

* * *

NORWAY: Norwegian Scientists Make Human Cells Change Jobs
http://www.norwaypost.no/content.asp?folder_id=3D1&cluster_id=3D19552

CANADA: Chr=E9tien May Face Backlash on Embryo Bill
http://www.nationalpost.com/home/story.html?f=3D/stories/20020506/134371.h=
tml

U.S.: As the U.S. Hesitates, Other Countries Move Ahead With Embryo Resear=
ch
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/business/technology/3210920.htm

U.S.: Electrodes in Brain Fight Pain - Surprising Effects Triggered
Deep in Neural Network
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-
bin/article.cgi?f=3D/c/a/2002/05/06/MN136466.DTL&type=3Dscience

OREGON: Sen. Smith Adjusts Stance on Cloning
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/xml/story.ssf/html_sta=
ndard.x
sl?/base/news/10206861782613072.xml

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--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Coalition for the Advancement of Medical Research"
        <[log in to unmask]>
MAY 8TH CALL YOUR SENATORS

The Coalition for the Advancement of Medical Research is Coordinating a
Call-Your-Senators Day – May 8th

Call the Capitol Switchboard at 202-224-3121

Thank you for all of your hard work, but we cannot stop now.  The Senate
will vote in the next few weeks on legislation that would ban somatic
cell nuclear transfer technology (SCNT, sometimes called therapeutic
cloning).  The Coalition for the Advancement of Medical Research (CAMR)
is coordinating a Call-Your-Senators Day, May 8th.  Please spread the
word and ask your friends and family to call the Capitol Switchboard at
202-224-3121, and ask to speak with your Senators’ office.  Tell them why
you believe SCNT research must be allowed to continue.

As you know, the Senate has already held hearings on S. 1899, a bill by
Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS) and Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) that would
ban all cloning including SCNT; put researchers in prison; and deny
patients the benefit of any therapies developed from therapeutic cloning
outside the United States.

This week, Senators Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Arlen Specter (R-PA), Dianne
Feinstein (D-CA) and Edward Kennedy (D-MA) have joined together to
sponsor S. 2439, legislation that would ban reproductive cloning to
create children, but permit privately funded research involving SCNT.
This legislation is widely supported among scientific, medical, and
patient groups.  The Senate may vote on this bill as well.

WHAT SHOULD YOU DO?
Two Steps:

1.  Click <http://www.camradvocacy.org/> to be taken to the website of
the Coalition for the Advancement of Medical Research.  This site will
provide background information on the current debate.

2.  Coordinate with your friends and family to call the Capitol
Switchboard, 202-224-3121, on May 8th and urge your Senators to SUPPORT
S. 2439, THE SPECTER/FEINSTEIN/HATCH/KENNEDY BILL AND OPPOSE S. 1899, THE
BROWNBACK/LANDRIEU BILL, which will criminalize potentially life-saving
medical research.

Make your support of SCNT known!!!!!

            Message points for your call:

·        Somatic cell nuclear transfer (SCNT) is not the science fiction
you see in movies, but rather a reasonable and appropriate way to
alleviate the horrors faced by patients suffering from deadly and painful
diseases.

·        Cloning is widely used, vital medical tool that has allowed
scientists and researchers to develop powerful new drugs; produce insulin
and useful bacteria in the lab; track the origins of biological weapons;
catch criminals and free innocent people; and produce new plants and
livestock to help feed an undernourished world population.

·        The nation’s leading scientists, including two prestigious
committees of the National Academy of Sciences, agree that cloning to
reproduce humans should be illegal, but that SCNT (or therapeutic
cloning) should be permitted.

·        SCNT is a research technique to develop cells that can be used
to treat or cure chronic and degenerative diseases and disorders.  The
process has nothing to do with sexual reproduction.  Its sole purpose is
research to meet unmet medical needs.

·        By moving stem cell research forward, SCNT could bring new hope
to the nearly 100 million Americans who suffer from cancer, Alzheimer’s,
diabetes, hepatitis, Parkinson’s disease and other devastating conditions
for which treatments must still be found.

·        SCNT allows a patient’s own genetic material to be used to
develop advanced stem cell therapies. These therapies—including
transplants and transfusions-- would be tailored to match each patient’s
specific medical condition and dramatically reduce the possibility of
causing the patient’s immune system to attack and reject the therapy.

The Brownback bill would have devastating results.
It would:

Ban SCNT, or therapeutic cloning, cutting-off hope to millions of
Americans with life-threatening diseases;

Make it illegal for U.S. citizens to seek SCNT treatment abroad;

Send a U.S. scientist to jail for developing SCNT therapies in a petri
dish;

Make it illegal for U.S. scientists to import SCNT therapies that were
developed in other countries.

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Hi Jane,

did you receive Mary Yost's newsletter this morning?
There is a Glendora, CA support group.
Check it out, if you have any more questions, e-mail me,
I live close to West Covina, in Temple City.

Mario


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> I have a friend looking for a support group in West Covina, CA.  Can
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> help  with a number to call?
>
> jjjane
>
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Here it is:


Wednesday, May 8
Parkinson's Resource Organization Support Group
"Caregivers' Rap Session"
7:00 pm, Foothill Nursing, 401 W. Ada, Glendora
Reservations: 310/476-7030  or toll free 1--877-775-4111


Mario



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Good News Everyone,

I got myself booted out of the hospital yesterday. SHE'S FREE!  This feat in
itself is worth comment.

   I only slept 4 hours night before last but woke full of vim and vigor.
(Major Understatement)  Nothing hurt, I was bouncing off the walls, speeking
fast, shuffling a little faster than usual... )You can drag that foot a
little faster when you are motivatted)

   The doc came in and asked how I was feeling. I asked him to go look out
the window for lightening. To my amazement, he actually went to the window
and looked, turned back to me and said, "it looks like a clear day."  Oh,
really...wow... I'm almost scared to say it, I FEEL GOOD!  Nothing hurts!

   He smiled and told me to get the heck out of here before I got sick.
Said that the steroids that he put me on were once again wiping out my
immune system and I needed to get away from there.  YEAH BUDDY..... I WAS
GIVEN THE KEY TO ESCAPE FROM THE TORTURE CHAMBER.

   Robert arrived just a few minutes later with a change of clotes for me to
put on.  I had barely eaten all week and was anticipating slinking into my
jeans and shirt. HA!  I put on my jeans, flab rolling off the waist (You
must understand that just one year ago I was 117 lbs and wore a size 4).
Then I put on the silk blouse, size L, and looked down... where did they
come from?.... monster boobies.... there must have been a 4 inch gap between
the buttons.  It would not have been possible to button that shirt without a
corset.

I could see it now, Deb leaving the hospital mimicking something from a
Madona video with her bra showing and a wrap of clothing anging over the
shoulders to give the illusion of being dressed.  Problem with this analogy
is that I wasn't wearing one of those fancy lace bra's no sir ree... I had
the old maw maw type on that simply functions to keep those suckers up off
of  the knees.

   Second option, jeans and a hospital gown..naaa..not my style.  So hubby
goes to the $5.00 store and gets me an XL USA pride T-Shirt, comes back,
loads the car and we escape.  The doc had wanted us to go by his office on
the way home so that he could give me samples of a medication to try for
pain before I bought the prescription since I seem to blow up in a red rash
looking at pills these days.

   On the drive over, I sang, giggles, talked, talked, talked, giggled, and
kept repeating how GREAT I was feeling.  By this time Robert is really
getting concerned.. I don't think he has ever seen me this way.  Then a
moment of silence hit.... the light bulb went off... STEROIDS....I'm MANIC.
Cool feeling.

Then I recounted to Robert the story of my Aunt Lavenia who when put on
steroids not only cleaned her whole house, but made new drapes from scratch
for every room, baked a meal for the entire church for Sunday AND was caught
at 6:30 in the morning by one of her children up on her roof mopping the
shingles.  She simply stated that she didn't remember ever having done that
before and thought that they might be dirty by now and then
continued what she was doing.

   If you could of seen Roberts face. Wish I had a picture as this dear man
is looking at me trying to keep his composure and not speak the words that
he is obviously thinking so loud that the people in the next car could hear.

   We arrive at the doc's office. Robert makes sure that he talks to the
doc.    Dr. Raad just smiles when he's asked, "What drug is making her
so..uh.... hyper?:  Dr. Raad says steroids.  He tells Robert that I probably
won't be sleeping much and that I will be having mood swings and then he
looks him in the eye, puts his hand on his shoulder and says, put on your
seat belt, this is going to be one wild ride.  Then the doc looks at me and
giggles, looks back at Robert and says, call me in the morning if you need
to.

   Well, we go home, pack a suitcase and drive to Myrtle Beach, get a room
and here we are.  9 stories above the water, ocean breeze filling the
room,laptop in hand, coffee machine brewing and I'm just as manic today as I
was yesterday.

   I have about 3 more weeks of steroids and am
loving this window away from pain.

   Hugs and warm fuzzies,

   Deborah

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> Hi,
> That is exactly why the virus could not have gotten hold of any messages
or
> names in the address book folder. I downloaded the latest IE about a week
> before I got the virus. SO for about a week, if not more there were no
mails
> in the inbox, except about 20 or so and nothing in the address book.
> I lost all my folders in the update process and that is why I was more
> shocked to learn that the virus at random choses sites on the net to go to
> and not ones that are there in your add folder necessarily.
> Take care
> Lavanya
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert A. Fink, M. D." <[log in to unmask]>
> To: "vmehra" <[log in to unmask]>; "Parkinson's Information Exchange
> Network" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 3:09 AM
> Subject: Re: Address Book Protection
>
>
> > Date sent:      Mon, 6 May 2002 21:06:36 +0530
> > Send reply to:  Parkinson's Information Exchange Network
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > From:           vmehra <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject:        Re: Address Book Protection
> > To:             [log in to unmask]
> >
> > > I had about 300 mails saved in there. All of the stuff that Murray
> > > sends......none of his mails were ever deleted. Plus names of some
> > > books that people post etc. All of that was in the inbox and all of
> > > that gone when I updated. Doug and Karyn tried to help me get the
> > > things back but didnt find it. Take care Lavanya ----
> >
> > And that is *exactly* why your contracting of the virus was such a
> > disaster.  The virus grabs hold of messages saved in your inbox and
> > sends them out to the contents of your address book.
> >
> > DO NOT leave any messages in your inbox after reading them.  Delete
> > the ones that you do not wish to save; and place the ones that you
> > wish to save into a specific folder created for such.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > **********************************************
> > Robert A. Fink, M. D., F.A.C.S., P. C.
> > 2500 Milvia Street  Suite 222
> > Berkeley, California  94704-2636
> > Telephone:  510-849-2555   FAX:  510-849-2557
> > WWW:  http://www.rafink.com/
> >
> > mailto:[log in to unmask]
> >
> > "Ex Tristitia Virtus"
> >
> > *********************************************
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> >
> >
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 =20
Hello!

I'm a psychologist and doctoral candidate in Psychology at the =
University of Minnesota, and am conducting an online study that may be =
of interest to those caring for loved ones with PD.  The study examines =
the relationship between writing and well-being in caregivers to persons =
with neurodegenerative diseases.  Caregivers are welcome to participate =
whether they live with their loved one or not.  My interest in caregiver =
well-being stems from personal experience as part of a family affected =
by Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis.
=20
For complete information on the study, go to =
http://www.personalityscience.org and click the Neurodegenerative =
Disease
Caregiver Study link.
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FYI: The first 100 caregivers completing all four sessions of this study =
will receive a $25(US) gift certificate from Amazon.com as a thank-you.
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Sincerely,
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Hello,

I am a caregiver for my 75 yo day who lives with my six yo daughter and me.
I will go to the site you included.

If I want to participate, will there be a place to let you know at the site?

Best,

Jann

Jann Bell
Rural Health Care Educator
ConnectCare
Arkansas Department of Health
4815 West Markham St, Slot 41
Little Rock, Arkansas  72205

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Dear Jann,

Thanks for your message.  In answer to your question, yes - just click on
the Neurodegenerative Disease Caregivers link and review the informed
consent material.  If you decide to participate, you'll be able to simply
proceed with the online study.

I appreciate your interest!

Best Wishes,

Suzanne Candell, MEq
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> Hello,
>
> I am a caregiver for my 75 yo day who lives with my six yo daughter and
me.
> I will go to the site you included.
>
> If I want to participate, will there be a place to let you know at the
site?
>
> Best,
>
> Jann
>
> Jann Bell
> Rural Health Care Educator
> ConnectCare
> Arkansas Department of Health
> 4815 West Markham St, Slot 41
> Little Rock, Arkansas  72205
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From:                   "vmehra" <[log in to unmask]>
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Date sent:              Tue, 7 May 2002 22:22:59 +0530

> That is exactly why the virus could not have gotten hold of any
> messages or names in the address book folder. I downloaded the latest
> IE about a week before I got the virus. SO for about a week, if not
> more there were no mails in the inbox, except about 20 or so and
> nothing in the address book.

There are multiple ways that the virus can be propagated.  IE (even
version 6.0, which is the latest) has "holes" which allow script
viruses through by way of the HTML that it uses; and Outlook and
Outlook Express are very easy to get infected.

The only way to avoid getting and propagating viruses is to:

1. Get and use (properly) a good, automated anti-virus program like
Norton or McAfee.  You must keep it updated and run it regularly (I
run mine weekly).

2. Stop using the Microsoft mailers (Outlook and Outlook Express).  I
use Pegasus Mail, which is very powerful and free, and is essentially
"immune" to viruses; and it can be downloaded from <www.pmail.com>.
Eudora is another good one which comes in a free version (with
advertisements) or in a commercial version (without advertisements).

I have been using an antivirus program for about 3 years and Pegasus
Mail for about 5 years and I have *never* been infected with a
computer virus, despite getting an average of 300 e-mail messages
each day.


Best,

Bob

**********************************************
Robert A. Fink, M. D., F.A.C.S., P. C.
2500 Milvia Street  Suite 222
Berkeley, California  94704-2636
Telephone:  510-849-2555   FAX:  510-849-2557
WWW:  http://www.rafink.com/

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Deborah...C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S!!!!
"The Great Escape from the Hospital" story is terrific...........Enjoy every
precious minute of your new found freedom....stay well...Joan
Hartman


----- Original Message -----

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Subject: I'm Free At Last!





Good News Everyone,



I got myself booted out of the hospital yesterday. SHE'S
FREE!  This feat in

itself is worth comment.



   I only slept 4 hours night before last but woke full of vim
and vigor.

(Major Understatement)  Nothing hurt, I was bouncing off the
walls, speeking

fast, shuffling a little faster than usual... )You can drag that foot
a

little faster when you are motivatted)



   The doc came in and asked how I was feeling. I asked him to go
look out

the window for lightening. To my amazement, he actually went to the
window

and looked, turned back to me and said, "it looks like a clear
day."  Oh,

really...wow... I'm almost scared to say it, I FEEL
GOOD!  Nothing hurts!



   He smiled and told me to get the heck out of here before I got
sick.

Said that the steroids that he put me on were once again wiping out
my

immune system and I needed to get away from there.  YEAH
BUDDY..... I WAS

GIVEN THE KEY TO ESCAPE FROM THE TORTURE CHAMBER.



   Robert arrived just a few minutes later with a change of
clotes for me to

put on.  I had barely eaten all week and was anticipating
slinking into my

jeans and shirt. HA!  I put on my jeans, flab rolling off the
waist (You

must understand that just one year ago I was 117 lbs and wore a size
4).

Then I put on the silk blouse, size L, and looked down... where did
they

come from?.... monster boobies.... there must have been a 4 inch gap
between

the buttons.  It would not have been possible to button that
shirt without a

corset.



I could see it now, Deb leaving the hospital mimicking something from
a

Madona video with her bra showing and a wrap of clothing anging over
the

shoulders to give the illusion of being dressed.  Problem with
this analogy

is that I wasn't wearing one of those fancy lace bra's no sir ree... I
had

the old maw maw type on that simply functions to keep those suckers up
off

of  the knees.



   Second option, jeans and a hospital gown..naaa..not my
style.  So hubby

goes to the $5.00 store and gets me an XL USA pride T-Shirt, comes
back,

loads the car and we escape.  The doc had wanted us to go by his
office on

the way home so that he could give me samples of a medication to try
for

pain before I bought the prescription since I seem to blow up in a red
rash

looking at pills these days.



   On the drive over, I sang, giggles, talked, talked, talked,
giggled, and

kept repeating how GREAT I was feeling.  By this time Robert is
really

getting concerned.. I don't think he has ever seen me this
way.  Then a

moment of silence hit.... the light bulb went off... STEROIDS....I'm
MANIC.

Cool feeling.



Then I recounted to Robert the story of my Aunt Lavenia who when put
on

steroids not only cleaned her whole house, but made new drapes from
scratch

for every room, baked a meal for the entire church for Sunday AND was
caught

at 6:30 in the morning by one of her children up on her roof mopping
the

shingles.  She simply stated that she didn't remember ever having
done that

before and thought that they might be dirty by now and then

continued what she was doing.



   If you could of seen Roberts face. Wish I had a picture as
this dear man

is looking at me trying to keep his composure and not speak the words
that

he is obviously thinking so loud that the people in the next car could
hear.



   We arrive at the doc's office. Robert makes sure that he talks
to the

doc.    Dr. Raad just smiles when he's asked, "What
drug is making her

so..uh.... hyper?:  Dr. Raad says steroids.  He tells
Robert that I probably

won't be sleeping much and that I will be having mood swings and then
he

looks him in the eye, puts his hand on his shoulder and says, put on
your

seat belt, this is going to be one wild ride.  Then the doc looks
at me and

giggles, looks back at Robert and says, call me in the morning if you
need

to.



   Well, we go home, pack a suitcase and drive to Myrtle Beach,
get a room

and here we are.  9 stories above the water, ocean breeze filling
the

room,laptop in hand, coffee machine brewing and I'm just as manic today as
I

was yesterday.



   I have about 3 more weeks of steroids and am

loving this window away from pain.



   Hugs and warm fuzzies,



   Deborah



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Deborah - where do you get these steroids?  I think I need some.  Not to
be free of pain, which I don't have, but to have the energy to clean my
house, do my yard, wash my car, etc.  Maybe that's why athletes play so
well on steroids.  Best wishes.  Jo Ann

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Deborah,
To God be the Glory, great things He hath done!!  So happy for you.  Take
care.  Enjoy the manic feeling while it lasts - you deserve it!
Debra
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> Good News Everyone,
>
> I got myself booted out of the hospital yesterday. SHE'S FREE!  This feat
in
> itself is worth comment.
>
>    I only slept 4 hours night before last but woke full of vim and vigor.
> (Major Understatement)  Nothing hurt, I was bouncing off the walls,
speeking
> fast, shuffling a little faster than usual... )You can drag that foot a
> little faster when you are motivatted)
>
>    The doc came in and asked how I was feeling. I asked him to go look out
> the window for lightening. To my amazement, he actually went to the window
> and looked, turned back to me and said, "it looks like a clear day."  Oh,
> really...wow... I'm almost scared to say it, I FEEL GOOD!  Nothing hurts!
>
>    He smiled and told me to get the heck out of here before I got sick.
> Said that the steroids that he put me on were once again wiping out my
> immune system and I needed to get away from there.  YEAH BUDDY..... I WAS
> GIVEN THE KEY TO ESCAPE FROM THE TORTURE CHAMBER.
>
>    Robert arrived just a few minutes later with a change of clotes for me
to
> put on.  I had barely eaten all week and was anticipating slinking into my
> jeans and shirt. HA!  I put on my jeans, flab rolling off the waist (You
> must understand that just one year ago I was 117 lbs and wore a size 4).
> Then I put on the silk blouse, size L, and looked down... where did they
> come from?.... monster boobies.... there must have been a 4 inch gap
between
> the buttons.  It would not have been possible to button that shirt without
a
> corset.
>
> I could see it now, Deb leaving the hospital mimicking something from a
> Madona video with her bra showing and a wrap of clothing anging over the
> shoulders to give the illusion of being dressed.  Problem with this
analogy
> is that I wasn't wearing one of those fancy lace bra's no sir ree... I had
> the old maw maw type on that simply functions to keep those suckers up off
> of  the knees.
>
>    Second option, jeans and a hospital gown..naaa..not my style.  So hubby
> goes to the $5.00 store and gets me an XL USA pride T-Shirt, comes back,
> loads the car and we escape.  The doc had wanted us to go by his office on
> the way home so that he could give me samples of a medication to try for
> pain before I bought the prescription since I seem to blow up in a red
rash
> looking at pills these days.
>
>    On the drive over, I sang, giggles, talked, talked, talked, giggled,
and
> kept repeating how GREAT I was feeling.  By this time Robert is really
> getting concerned.. I don't think he has ever seen me this way.  Then a
> moment of silence hit.... the light bulb went off... STEROIDS....I'm
MANIC.
> Cool feeling.
>
> Then I recounted to Robert the story of my Aunt Lavenia who when put on
> steroids not only cleaned her whole house, but made new drapes from
scratch
> for every room, baked a meal for the entire church for Sunday AND was
caught
> at 6:30 in the morning by one of her children up on her roof mopping the
> shingles.  She simply stated that she didn't remember ever having done
that
> before and thought that they might be dirty by now and then
> continued what she was doing.
>
>    If you could of seen Roberts face. Wish I had a picture as this dear
man
> is looking at me trying to keep his composure and not speak the words that
> he is obviously thinking so loud that the people in the next car could
hear.
>
>    We arrive at the doc's office. Robert makes sure that he talks to the
> doc.    Dr. Raad just smiles when he's asked, "What drug is making her
> so..uh.... hyper?:  Dr. Raad says steroids.  He tells Robert that I
probably
> won't be sleeping much and that I will be having mood swings and then he
> looks him in the eye, puts his hand on his shoulder and says, put on your
> seat belt, this is going to be one wild ride.  Then the doc looks at me
and
> giggles, looks back at Robert and says, call me in the morning if you need
> to.
>
>    Well, we go home, pack a suitcase and drive to Myrtle Beach, get a room
> and here we are.  9 stories above the water, ocean breeze filling the
> room,laptop in hand, coffee machine brewing and I'm just as manic today as
I
> was yesterday.
>
>    I have about 3 more weeks of steroids and am
> loving this window away from pain.
>
>    Hugs and warm fuzzies,
>
>    Deborah
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Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:36 PM
Subject: Fw: aspartame and sugar free products


I know some of you already have information on this but this was presented quite well I thought.  So I'm sending it on to you.  Penny
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> >>>   Subject: Fw: aspartame & sugar free products
> >>>
> >>>   Diet Drink Anyone?
> >>>
> >>>   by Nancy Markle
> >>>   June 14, 2001
> >>>
> >>>   I have spent several days lecturing at the World Environment Conference
> >>on
> >>> Aspartame marketed as NutraSweet, Equal and
> >>>   Spoonful. In the keynote address by the EPA, they announced that there
> >>was
> >>> an epidemic of multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus,
> >>>   and they did not understand what toxin was causing this to be rampant
> >>> across the United States. I explained that I was there to
> >>>   lecture on exactly that subject.
> >>>
> >>>   When the temperature of Aspartame exceeds 86 degrees F; the wood
> alcohol
> >>> in Aspartame converts to formaldehyde and then to
> >>>   formic acid, which in turn causes metabolic acidosis. (Formic acid is
> >>the
> >>> poison found in the sting of fire ants). The methanol
> >>>   toxicity mimics multiple sclerosis thus peoples were being diagnosed
> >>with
> >>> having multiple sclerosis in error. The multiple sclerosis
> >>>   is not a death sentence, where methanol toxicity is. In the case of
> >>> systemic lupus, we are finding it has become almost as rampant as
> >>>   multiple sclerosis, especially with Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi drinkers.
> >>> Also, with methanol toxicity, the victims usually drink three to
> >>>   four 12 oz. cans of them per day, some even more. In the case of
> >>systemic
> >>> lupus, which is
> >>>   triggered by Aspartame, the victim usually does not know that the
> >>> Aspartame is the culprit. The victim continues its use
> >>>   aggravating the lupus to such a degree, that sometimes it becomes life
> >>> threatening. When we get people off the Aspartame, those
> >>>   with systemic lupus usually become symptomatic. Unfortunately, we
> cannot
> >>> reverse this disease.
> >>>
> >>>   On the other hand, in the case of those diagnosed with Multiple
> >>Sclerosis,
> >>> (when in reality, the disease is methanol toxicity), most
> >>>   of the symptoms disappear. We have seen cases where their vision has
> >>> returned and even their hearing has returned. This also
> >>>   applies to cases of tinnitus. During a lecture, I said,and quote, "If
> >>you
> >>> are using Aspartame (NutraSweet, Equal, Spoonful, etc.)
> >>>   and you suffer from Fibromyalgia symptoms; spasms, shooting pains,
> >>> numbness in your legs, cramps, vertigo, dizziness,
> >>>   headaches, tinnitus, joint pain, depression, anxiety attacks, slurred
> >>> speech, blurred vision or memory loss, you probably have
> >>>   Aspartame disease." People were jumping up during the lecture saying,
> >>> "I've got this. Is it reversible?" It is rampant. Some of the
> >>>   speakers at my lecture even were suffering from these symptoms. In one
> >>> lecture attended by the Ambassador of Uganda, he told us
> >>>   that their sugar industry is adding Aspartame. He continued by saying
> >>that
> >>> one of the industry leader's sons could no longer walk
> >>>   - due in part by product usage. We have a very serious problem. Even a
> >>> stranger came up to Dr. Espisto (one of my speakers) and
> >>>   myself and said, "Could you tell me why so many people seem to be
> coming
> >>> down with M.S.?" During a visit to a hospice, a nurse
> >>>   said that six of her friends who were heavy Diet Coke addicts, had all
> >>> been diagnosed with M.S. This is beyond coincidence.
> >>>
> >>>   Here is the problem. There were Congressional Hearings when Aspartame
> >>was
> >>> included in 100 different products. Since this initial
> >>>   hearing, there have been two subsequent hearings, but to no avail.
> >>Nothing
> >>> has been done. The drug and chemical lobbies have
> >>>   very deep pockets. Now there are over 5,000 products containing this
> >>> chemical, and the PATENT HAS EXPIRED. At the time of
> >>>   this first hearing, people were going blind. The methanol in the
> >>Aspartame
> >>> converts to formaldehyde in the retina of the eye.
> >>>   Formaldehyde is grouped in the same class of drugs as cyanide and
> >>> arsenic - DEADLY POISONS! Unfortunately, it just takes
> >>>   longer to quietly kill, but it is killing people and causing all kinds
> >>of
> >>> neurological problems. Aspartame changes the
> >>>   brain's chemistry. It is the reason for severe seizures. This drug
> >>changes
> >>> the dopamine level in the brain. Imagine what this drug
> >>>   does to patients suffering from Parkinson's Disease.
> >>>
> >>>   This drug also causes Birth Defects. There is absolutely no reason to
> >>take
> >>> this product. It is NOT A DIET PRODUCT. The
> >>>   Congressional record said, "It makes you crave carbohydrates and will
> >>make
> >>> you FAT." Dr. Roberts stated that when he got
> >>>   patients off Aspartame, their average weight loss was 19 pounds per
> >>> person. The formaldehyde stores in the fat cells, particularly
> >>>   in the hips and thighs. Aspartame is especially deadly for diabetics.
> >>All
> >>> physicians know what wood alcohol will do to a diabetic.
> >>>   We find that physicians believe that they have patients with
> >>retinopathy,
> >>> when in fact, it is caused by the Aspartame. The
> >>>   Aspartame keeps the blood sugar level out of control, causing many
> >>> patients to go into a coma. Unfortunately, many have died.
> >>>   People were telling us at the Conference of the American college of
> >>> Physicians, that they had relatives that switched from saccharin
> >>>   to an Aspartame product and how that relative had eventually gone into
> a
> >>> coma. Their physicians could not get the blood sugar
> >>>   levels under control. Thus, the patients suffered acute memory loss and
> >>> eventually coma and death. Memory loss is due to the fact
> >>>   that aspartic acid and phenylanine are neurotoxic without the other
> >>amino
> >>> acids found in protein. Thus it goes past the brain
> >>>   barrier and deteriorates the neurons of the brain. Dr. Russell
> Blaylock,
> >>> neurosurgeon, said, "The ingredients stimulate the neurons
> >>>   of the brain to death, causing brain damage of varying degrees."
> >>>
> >>>   Dr. Blaylock has written a book entitled, "EXVIROTOXINS : The Taste
> That
> >>> Kills" (Health Press 800-643-2665). Dr. H.J.
> >>>   Roberts, diabetic specialist and world expert on Aspartame Poisoning
> has
> >>> also written a book entitled, "Defense against Alzheimer's
> >>>   Disease" (800-814-9800). Dr. Roberts tells how Aspartame Poisoning is
> >>> escalating Alzheimer's Disease and indeed it is. As the
> >>>   hospice nurse told me, women are being admitted at 30 years of age with
> >>> Alzheimer's Disease. Dr. Blaylock and Dr. Roberts will be
> >>>   writing a position paper with some case histories and will post it on
> >>the
> >>> Internet. According to the Conference of the American
> >>>   College of Physicians, "We are talking about a plague of neurological
> >>> diseases caused by this deadly poison." Dr. Roberts realized
> >>>   what was happening when Aspartame was first marketed. He said, "his
> >>> diabetic patients presented memory loss, confusion, and
> >>>   severe vision loss." At the Conference of American College of
> >>Physicians,
> >>> doctors
> >>>   admitted that they did not know. They had wondered why seizures were
> >>> rampant (the phenylaline in Aspartame breaks down the
> >>>   seizures threshold and depletes serotonin, which causes manic
> >>depression,
> >>> panic attacks, rage and violence). Just possible antidote
> >>>   for this poison because they are experiencing so many problems in their
> >>> country. This "poison" is now available in 90 plus
> >>>   countries worldwide.
> >>>
> >>>   Fortunately, we had speakers and ambassadors at the Conference from
> >>> different nations who have pledged their help. We ask you
> >>>   to help too. Copy this article and warn everyone you know. Take
> anything
> >>> that contains Aspartame back to the store. Send us your
> >>>   case history.
> >>>
> >>>   I assure you that Monsanto, the creator of Aspartame, knows how deadly
> >>it
> >>> is. They fund the American Diabetes Association,
> >>>   American Dietetic Association, Congress and the Conference of the
> >>American
> >>> College of Physicians. The New York Times, on
> >>>   November 15, 1996, ran an article on how the American Dietetic
> >>Association
> >>> takes money from the food industry to endorse their
> >>>   products. Therefore, they cannot criticize any additives or tell about
> >>> their link to Monsanto.
> >>>
> >>>   How bad is this? We told a mother who had a child on NutraSweet to get
> >>off
> >>> the product. The child was having Grand Mal
> >>>   Seizures every day. The mother called her physician, who called the
> ADA,
> >>> who told the doctor not to take the child off the
> >>>   NutraSweet. We are still trying to convince the mother that the
> >>Aspartame
> >>> is causing the seizures.
> >>>
> >>>   Every time we get someone off of Aspartame, the seizures stop. If the
> >>baby
> >>> dies, you know whose fault it is and what we are up
> >>>   against. There are 92 documented symptoms of Aspartame from coma to
> >>death.
> >>> The majority of them are neurological because the
> >>>   Aspartame destroys the nervous system. Aspartame Disease is partially
> >>the
> >>> cause to what is behind some of the
> >>>   mystery of the Desert Storm health problems. The burning tongue and
> >>other
> >>> problems discussed in over 60 cases can be directly
> >>>   related to the consumption of Aspartame product and several thousand
> >>> pallets of diet drinks were shipped to the Desert Storm
> >>>   troops. Diet drinks sat in the 120 degree F Arabian sun for weeks at a
> >>> time on pallets. The service men and women drank them all
> >>>   day long. All of their symptoms are identical to Aspartame Poisoning.
> >>Dr.
> >>> Roberts says that consuming Aspartame at the time of
> >>>   conception can cause birth defects. The phenylanine concentrates in the
> >>> placenta, causing mental retardation, according to Dr.
> >>>   Louis Elsas, Pediatrician Professor - genetics at Emory University in
> >>his
> >>> testimony before Congress. In the original lab tests,
> >>>   animals developed brain tumors (phenylaline breaks down into DXP, a
> >>brain
> >>> tumor agent). When Dr. Espisto was lecturing on
> >>>   Aspartame, one physician in the audience, a neurosurgeon said, "When
> >>they
> >>> remove brain tumors, they have found high levels of
> >>>   Aspartame in them". Stevia, a sweet food, NOT AN ADDITIVE, that helps
> in
> >>> the
> >>>   metabolism of sugar, which would be ideal for diabetics, has now been
> >>> approved as a dietary supplement by the FDA. For years,
> >>>   the FDA has outlawed this sweet food because of their loyalty to
> >>Monsanto.
> >>>
> >>>   If a label says SUGAR FREE, DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT CONSUMING IT.
> >>>
> >>>   Senator Howard Metzenbaum wrote a bill that would have warned all
> >>infants,
> >>> pregnant mothers and children of the dangers of
> >>>   Aspartame. The bill would have also instituted independent studies on
> >>the
> >>> problems existing in the population (seizures, changes
> >>>   in brain chemistry, changes in neurological and behavioral symptoms).
> >>The
> >>> bill was killed by the powerful drug and chemical
> >>>   lobbies, letting loose the hounds of disease and death on an
> >>unsuspecting
> >>> public. Since the Conference of American College of
> >>>   Physicians, we hope to have the help of some world leaders.
> >>>
> >>>   Again, please help us too. There are a lot of people out there who must
> >>be
> >>> warned. Please let them know this information. You
> >>>   might want to print it out to hand out or fax it to people who are not
> >>> online.
> >>>
> >>>   Thank You
> >>>
> >>>   Kristine M. DeRobertis
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> >>> m>
> >>>   201-541-7320
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Hi Folks
My name is Jack Ambeau.  I am 69 yrs. old and have retired from the OPP
for the past 13 yrs.  I have just been diagnosed with PD after
undergoing many tests and seeing many doctors, neurologists etc for the
past four yrs. trying to find the cause of tremours to my left left and
now also my left arm, along with many other symptoms off PD which I have
just been made aware of.  Originally my symptons were categorized as
possibly part of the aging process but my body was telling me something
else.  I am feeling many emotions presently but I suppose I will
eventually settle down and get on with my life.  At least now I know
what I am dealing with.
Am interested in getting just about any info. I can get on PD and
especially stories of other PD patients feelings and how they cope
daily.   thanks.

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> Ervin J. McCarthy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Penny LoPresto
> To: Jim Cook ll ; Pat and Bob Herwaldt ; Nancy Rigsby ; Janis Damask ;
> Walt & Lynn Boluch ; Joyce Green ; Carianne ; Jamie Riggs Sent:
> Monday, May 06, 2002 10:36 PM Subject: Fw: aspartame and sugar free
> products
>
>
> I know some of you already have information on this but this was
> presented quite well I thought.  So I'm sending it on to you.  Penny
> --- > >>>  Subject: Fw: aspartame & sugar free products > >>> > >>>

This is a well-known and aged hoax (at least 5 years old) perpetuated
by someone named Betty Martini.  It has been posted all over the
Internet.  I have a whole folder on it, along with the denials by the
people said to have made certain statements at certain meetings.  I
have posted it here before and am not into doing it again.  Check the
archives under "Aspartame".

Best,

Bob

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