Hi! Charles: I am glad to know that you are working on PD. Obviously it needs more PhDs than clinicians working in such problems. Not that I am against Clinicians. (Both of my sons are clinitians, one is a GP and the other is a Radiation Oncologist.) But, they have so much to do and most often they don't have even enough time to talk to their patients. I think personally, especially in the case of PD and related diseases, there must be a good discussion between the doctor and the patient about the pros and cons of the disease, effect of medication etc., which I find is currently lacking. It took me sometime to get to know the disease and its cruel effects on life. Enough about complaints. Let us be constructive. I have been doing some reading on my own. I am working on two concepts. But, I shall discuss about one of them now: PHOSPHATIDYL SERINE AND PARKINSON'S DISEASE: Recent studies have revealed that two drugs Mirapex and Requip have a beneficial effect in that they both seem to significantly retard the progression of PD. However, both have some undesirable side effects. I have some thoughts on the possible etiology of Parkinson's Disease and a novel approach to find some immediate relief (not cure) for Parkinsons disease patients. While I was searching the published literature, I came across the beneficial effects of a biochemical called phosphatidylserine (PS) on the nervous system in geneal. In a Tv program, a scientist was telling that PS reversees the age of the nervous system by about 5-10 years. (However, i could not find any reference on this in the PUB-MED.) PS, a phospholipid enriched in the brain, has been validated through double-blind studies for improving memory, learning, concentration, word recall, and mood in middle aged and elderly subjects with dementia, or age-related cognitive decline [Kidd PM, 1999. A review of nutrients and botanicals in the integrative management of cognitive dysfunction, Altern Med Rev, 4, 144-61]. Several studies have confirmed that PS improves the memory loss due to age associated memory impairment (AAMI). In fact, PS has been shown to improve the memory in: 1. AAMI patients [Crook TH et al., 1991, Effects of phosphatidylserine in age-associated memory impairment. Neurology 41, p. 644-9] 2. Depressive symptoms, memory and behavior in geriatric patients [Zicchi C. 1990. Effects of phosphatidylserine therapy in geriatric patients with depressive disorders. Acta Pychiatr Scand 81, 265-70.] 3. Aged rats [Suzuki S et al., 2001. Oral administration of soybean lecithin trans-phosphatidylated phosphatidylserine improves memory impairment in aged rats. J Nutr 131, 2951-6] 4. Reversal of memory deficit (amnesia) associated with exposure to chemicals in rats [Alves CS et al., 2000, Phosphatidylserine reverses reserpine-induced amnesia. Eur J Pharmacol 404, 161-7] and in mice [Suzuki et al., 2000. Effect of intracerebroventricular admnistration of soybean lecithin transphosphatiilated phosphatidylserine on scopolamine-induced amnesic mice. Japn J Pharmacol. 84, 86-8; Furushiro M et al., 1997. Effects of oral administration of soybean lecithin transphosphatidylated phosphatidylserine on impaired learning of passive avoidance in mice. Jpn J Pharmacol 75, 447-40] 5. Neuronal mechanisms related to learning and memory [Giancoti C et al., 1993. B-50/GAP-43 phosphorylation in hippocampal slices from aged rats: effects of phosphatidylserine administration. Neurobiol Aging, 14, 401-6] 6. Improved cognitive abilities in PS exposed otherwise normal mouse pups when they reached adulthood [Ammassari-Teule M et al., 1990. Chronic administration of phosphatidylserine during ontogeny enhances subject-environment interactions and radial maze performance in C57BL/6 mice. Physiol. Behav 47, 755-60] 7. Senile dementia in mice [Sakai, M et al., 1996. Pharmacological effects of phosphatidylserine synthesized fom soybean lecithin on brain functions in rodents. J Nutr Sci Vitaminol (Tokyo) 42, 47-54.] 8. Cerebral ischemic damage in gerbils [Suzuki S et al., 1999. Oral administration of soybean lecithin transphosphatidylated phosphatidylserine (SB-tPS) reduces ischemic damage in the gerbil hippocampus. Jpn J Pharmacol 81, 237-9]. Thus, all these studies report an overall beneficial effect of exogenous orally administered phosphatidylserine on the nervous system. The important thing is that there does not appear to be any undesirable side effects even in human subjects. A survey of literature also shows that memory impairment is common to most of the progresive neurogenerative disordrs like ET, PD, Alzheimer's disese (AD), Huntington's disease (HD), some types of epilepsy and multiple sclerosis (MS), as cited below with some sample publications (this is not an exaustive survey): A. Memory impairment of different sorts [Howard LA, et al., 2000. The contribution of apraxic speech to working memory deficits in Parkinson's disease. Brain Lang 74, 269-88]; Whittington CJ et al., 2000. Recognition memory impairment in Parkinson's disease: power and meta-analysis. Neuropsychology 14, 233-46; [Ivory SJ et al. 1999. Verbal memory in non-demented patients with idiopathic Parkinson's disease. Neuropsychologia 37, 817-28; Mattay VS et al., 2002. Dopaminergic modulation of cortical function in patients with Parkinson's disease. Ann Neurol 51, 156-64.] B. Age-associated memory impairment and early Alzheimer's disease share biochemical similarity [Forstl H et al., 1995. Age-associated memory impairment and arly Alzheimer's disease. Only time will tell the difference. Arzneimittelforschung, 45, 394-7] C. Mild cognitive functional deficit is found in benign Essential Tremor patients [Lacritz LH et al., 2002. Cognitive functioning in individual with "benign" essential tremor. J Int Neuropsychol Soc 8, 125-9] and that D. depression found in Parkinson's disease patients is primarily related to memory deficiency [Norman S et al., 2002. Effects of depression and Parkinson's disease on cognitive functioning. J Neuropsychiatry 14, 31-6]. I rationalized my hypothesis this way. The deficiency in cognitive functions may have a common physiological steps (signal transdution pathways) in all these progressive degenerative diseases such as AAMI, AD, PD, ET, HD and MS. If so, PS should also be able alleviate some of the symptoms of PD. With that logic and also knowing that PS does not have any serious side effects, I started taking PS for the past two weeks. [WARNING DO NOT REPEAT THIS WITHOUT CONSULTING YOUR DOCTOR!] On day 2 after taking PS, I was signing for my VISA bill at a grocery store and I was pleasantly surprised to see that I was able to sign my signature almost as good as I was doing it only last year. (Of late my signature has been just a blerb and did not resemble my signature a few years ago!) In addition, I see definite decrease (I do not have any quantitative numbers on this though) in the degree of amplitude in my tremors. I also see an overall improvement in my outlook of things. I have not done any dose response studies (I have to do sme more literature survey on this). I also find a perceivable degree of decrease in drooling and postural instability, although I do not have any way to quantitatively study this phenomenon. I am not how long this effect will last. I am not sure of the appropriate dose, being the first guinea pig myself. I am strongly convinced that PS is a compound with high promise in relieving or ameliorating various symptoms associated with cognitive functional deficiency, which appears to be related to various symptoms including tremor, dopamine physiology, speech, depression etc., which may or may not be common to most of the progressive neurodegenerative diseases including, PD, ET, HD and MS and AAMI. One can only assume that the common signal transduction pathway may be affected, albeit at different steps in different diseases. I am surprised that effect of PS has not been tested on PD pateints so far. I could think of a major reason why this has not been tried on PD patients. I suspect that this drug is commonly avaiblable in stores and, so, cannot be patented, and therefore, the pharmaceutical companies may not be willing to fund such a study. This study can only be conducted with government grants to University Professors. I am retired and I am not a neurologist. I would be willing to collaborate with you if you are interested in studying this phenomenon in a more formal way to approach this problem. My gut feeling tells me that PS may be very effective in very early stages of most of the neurogenerative diseases. But, we have to conduct proper studies observing all the ethical considerations, before we can assume anything. The rationale makes sense to me. Would like to hear from you. Raj [log in to unmask] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles W. Scouten, Ph.D." <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 12:48 AM Subject: Re: Introducing myself > Our stories run so similar its scary. I am in the propranalol stage > right now. Except the speech problem is sudden lockup of the face > muscles so I can't talk when trying to force speech and think at the > same time. I am a Ph.D. studying PD right now, and working on a grant, > and just sort of dawned on me that I seem to be in the early stages, > very much like you have described. Kind of lends an urgency to it all. > I have had symptoms since about 18 that I would now trace to early > traces. How common is it to have very early symptoms and warnings? > Long before diagnosable? > > Cordially, > > Charles W. Scouten, Ph.D. > myNeuroLab.com > 5918 Evergreen Blvd. > St. Louis, MO 63134 > Ph: 314 522 0300 > FAX 314 522 0277 > [log in to unmask] > www.myneurolab.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brightline [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 6:45 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Introducing myself > > Dear Friends: > I am not new, but I have not been very actively involved so far, > except > sending a couple of comments once in a while. I am 68, running on 69. I > am > an officially retired, but very much active, profesor and my area of > research was and is cancer. I have been having what everybody thought > was > ET (action tremor) since my teen age days. But, come to think of it, I > had > a slight facial mask from my twenties or thirties. I recollect in > 1972-73, > some of my close friends use to tell me: "You have a nice smile and a > good > heart. Why don't you use them to your advantage, instead of putting up > a > sorrow face all the time?" I am not sure if I had an early onset PD > with > very little true PD symptoms (no resting tremor, posturl instability, > drooling etc.) As a hind sight, I am sure it might be true. > In 1998 (at my 65th year), when I was lecturing in my class, I > noticed a > slight, occasional slurring of my speech. I did not even dream of PD in > thse days. Then, I started noticing my right arm did not swing as good > as > my left. My action tremor in my right hand became very highly visible > and I > began to notice by 2000 my right leg was doing the same in synch with my > right leg, when I did smething with my right hand fingers. Buttoning my > shirts takes a lot more time. By the end of 2001, I could not reproduce > my > signature; however my handwriting did not become tinies andtiniesas it > should be for PD; simplyh I cannot right one word without my hand > running > crazy all over the place. I was lucky I knew typing. Even that becomes > very difficult now days, since a couple of my fingers would not want to > bend > when I type some letters! > By the year 2000, I was convinced some thing strange was going on > There > fore I saw a neurologist. She told me I ws having ET and not PD. Then > I > went and saw the only local Movement Disorder Specialist who thought tht > I > was developing PD on top of my ET. I went through the initial phase of > denial and sought a second opinion from another MDS at Bethesda > Univesity > Hospital. She assured me that I did not have PD and prescribed > Propranalol. > When my lo al MDS heard this, he refused to see me! Propranalol had > only > transient effect on my tremor; soon I started developing high blood > pressure > (this is a beta blocker and is not supposed to do this!), increase in > weight > and blood sugar, and lethargy and low pulse rate. I stopped taking > Propranalol; I lost my gained weight, blood sugar became normal, normal > pulse rate, and my action tremor was getting worse. I have developed > mild > postural instability and occasinal drooling, along with sightly > progressed > speech slurring. > I saw another neurologist who prescribed sinemet CR, which I have > not > yet started taking. In the meanwhile, the news about mirapex and requip > delaying the progression of PD. I am wondering if I should see another > MDS. > I am waiting to get an appointment with Dr. Tony Lang in Toronto. > More about me later. > Raj > [log in to unmask] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn