Katie: Thanks for this report. This makes a lot of sense, especially the blood barrier and stem cell apect of it. Rah [log in to unmask] **** ----- Original Message ----- From: <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 1:56 AM Subject: Re: First you get PD then HIV..... > Doug, > > I am not an expert on this, but I went to a meeting of the Wisconsin > Parkinson Foundation on May 17, 2002, where Dr. Clive Ivenson of the > University of Wisconsin, an expert in stem cell transplantation and "brain > repair," said the following: > > The studies with GDNF showed "dramatic results" and no serious side > effects: in monkeys the degeneration of neurons was slowed and there was an > "enhancement effect" where new neurons were produced; > > GDNF is a big protein, and the problem is getting it across the brain > blood barrier; > > The use of stem cells as the transport mechanism for GDNF is the > future for stem cell research; > > Neurons are very difficult to produce in the process of manipulating > the blastocyst to differentiate into a specific type of cell in stem cell > transplantation; dopamine-producing neurons are extremely difficult to > produce; > > Using stem cell transplantation to carry the GDNF avoids the problem > of getting GDNF across the brain blood barrier and the problems of the > difficulty of making dopamine-producing neurons and making the > dopamine-producing neurons in sufficient quantity for transplantation. > > Presumably using stem cells to carry GDNF would also avoid all the > problems and difficulties of gene or virus techniques. (My conclusion: he > did not even mention that research in his presentation). > > Of interest: > > He said that he would never use foetal tissue for transplantation due > to the lack of uniform results, the need to use the foetus at exactly eight > weeks, and the need to use five foetuses for each side of the brain. > > He said that 250 people in the world have received stem cell implants, > and only three have exhibited extreme, unpredicted side effects as those > reported in the infamous N.Y. Times article. He said that in 1000 rats there > is no showing that the stem cell transplants result in tumors or unchecked > proliferation of the transplanted cells. > > He said that changing red blood cells in the umbilical cord into > dopamine-producing neurons was "science fiction" given the current state of > technology. Even with the rapid pace of development with stem cell research, > he did not think that, even in 10 years, this was a possibility. He said > that the costs of storage of the umbilical cord were high, and may not be > worth it. > > He said that "the immune system does not go beyond the brain blood > barrier," and there is no serious issue of rejection of the transplanted > cells in the brain. This makes stem cell transplantation in the brain > significantly different from stem cell transplantation in other body parts > where the rejection of the transplanted cells is a complicating factor. > > He said that he and his colleagues were very aware that they could > not even get one bad result in their research. He said that the media would > pounce on a bad result, and it would effect his funding and potentially the > entire area of stem cell research. > > I think I have reported this as accurately and clearly as I can. > Remember that I was a lawyer, and not a scientist. I found this all very > interesting--and very hopeful. Research is developing at an extremely rapid > pace, and in all directions. Unfortunately, IMO, the political/legal arena, > the religious/ pro-life groups, and the ever-vigilent media can slow or stop > this promising research. Katie from Green Bay > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn