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Not the kind in the dirt. I take e move/ we move, however today there was a message about them with frames ( whatever those are ) I attempted to open it and my virus program stopped me and warn me that it contained a worm. A number of us take these e mails -- don't open this one with the frames. Take care, Nita Andres cg David Andres , 83 , 75, ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn