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I never had the idea that Festination had to do with permax. when Ti took permax, it had no effect on me, good or bad but I had Festination before , during an after I was taking permax. I always thought that it had something to do with the condition called Parkinson's Disease. It wasn't until i had been a parkie for about five years that i experienced festination. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn