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I'm sorry, I thought everyone know every possible symptom one can have with PD. ( Is their no limit to how many ways PD can cause weird symptoms?) Thanks, Murray, for supplying a very complete definition. Now if someone can help me find an alternate agonist to Permax that doesn't have festination as a side effect, all will end well. I tried to find an answer on the web, but either there is none, or else I missed it. Thanks again, Bruce ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn