While my read of what Natasha said was the opposite to what Will argues, I think the problem here is that we're talking about two different kinds of courses: 1. discipline-specific writing courses 2. writing-intensive discipline courses. Obviously, the former is in the writing domain but circumscribed by a disciplinary context, whereas the latter is in the disciplinary context but circumscribed by a writing context. Rob Will Garrett-Petts wrote: > Hi all, > > Like Natasha (I think), I'm not convinced that "a discipline-based > [writing] course . . . need to be taught by someone in the discipline, > rather than by a writing person parachuting in." The phrase "parachuting > in" seems to assume a lack of planning and interdisciplinary > cooperation--while, here at Cariboo, we've run careers English courses > (composition and oral communication courses, designed in collaboration with > faculty outside English) successfully for years. Sometimes the student > essays are marked by both the writing instructor and the discipline > specialist; but, over time, the writing faculty become very familiar with > the discourse conventions of various disciplines, and are often able to > provide insights that those more immersed in the discipline might take for > granted or overlook. > > I'd also like to think--and I know this is point that others will take > issue with--that those of us trained in rhetoric and composition are in the > _best_ position to teach writing generally. I'm not sure why we wouldn't > take it as a given that rhet/comp faculty should take the lead in designing > and delivering writing intensive courses across the disciplines? > > Regards, Will > > < < Dr. W.F. Garrett-Petts > > > Associate Professor, > English & Modern Languages > > UCC, 900 McGill Road Voice: (250) 828-5248 > Box 3010, Kamloops B.C. FAX: (250) 371-5697 > B.C. V2C 5N3 Canada. E-mail: [log in to unmask] > > http://www.cariboo.bc.ca > < < Writing is a Performance Art > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to > [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, > write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] > > For the list archives and information about the organization, > its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to > http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- ************************************** Dr. Robert Irish, Director Language Across the Curriculum Applied Science and Engineering University of Toronto SF B670 416.978.6708 http://www.ecf.utoronto.ca/~writing ************************************* -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] For the list archives and information about the organization, its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-