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Paula, The only advice I have to give you is what I did for myself. Don't accept the diagnosis unless the doctor can prove to you it is correct. Look what has happened to me by following doctors orders. Can you travel with your mother? Do you have insurance? If the answer to both is yes then I STRONGLY suggest you make an appointment with Dr. Halprin at Long Island Jewish Medical Center in Manhassat, NY. if you both really want to know for sure. For me, the diagnosis that I received was not acceptable and I almost bought into it. If you remember from my postings back in late June, I just wanted to lay down and die. I was tired of the fight. I was tired of the doctors. I was tired of the hospitalization and diagnostic procedures only to tell me the same thing over and over. I had enough...period. It was my husband who drug me kicking and screaming and bitching and moaning to LA and NY. Look how this changed my life. You and your mom do not have to give up simply because "several" neurologists haven't figured it out yet. Hugs and Warm Fuzzies, Deborah Deborah, i agree with you. I have taken my mother to numerous doctors now and they are still "not certain" this PD, but have ruled out most everything else. what is a person supposed to do? it worries me so much. paula ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Setzer" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 8:35 AM Subject: The importance of PET scans, pt. 1 > Tom Berdine, founder of YOPD.org wrote Dr. Leiberman about PET scans. I was > less than impressed with the Dr.'s response. Here is the letter and > question that I posed to him today. > > Hugs, > Deborah aka Tenacity > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Dr. Leiberman, > > I am responding to two letters posted by a Mr. Tom Berdine on Aug. 31, > 2002 about PET scans. I am not a doctor but: > > 1. "if a specialist trained in pd cannot be certain of the diagnosis a pet > scan may help aside from this i see no role for them certainly no role to > justify their cost." > > I got a diagnosis from Dr. Levesque in L.A., A very respected and kind > neurosurgeon. Below is his results of my 2.5 hour office visit. I have > eliminated page 1 & 2 as they were not the important focus of this point. > Page 3 is included to show his "trained" opinion as to my diagnosis. Know in > advance, Dr. Levesque is not the only highly public MDS that I have seen. > From your list of MDS specialists on your site... I have seen 7 of them and > all had basically the same conclusion as Dr. Levesque. > > 2. "pet scans a limited usefulness in pd" > > PET scans having been around for over 15 years have been instrumental in the > determination of PD and surgery for PD from one of our very public PD > spokesmen. If celebrities get it before surgery, why shouldn't the PWP's? > Are the less famous. less deserving of conclusive proof prior to invasive > surgery? > > 3. "given the escalating cost of medicine, what we do not need is 50,000 > newly diagnosed pd patients having 3,000 dollar pet scans this is a cost of > 500,000,000 million dollars this sum if we had it would tell us what causes > pd" > > While we DO need funding to finding the cause and the cure ASAP, what does > having a PET scan have to do with that? Aren't PWP's subjected to many > tests that cost well more than this to determine what they "don't" have? > > I have researched PET scans in various locations here in the US and have > found, on average, F-DOPA and FDG PET scans cost $2100 per test. MRI's, the > test that almost all PWP's undergo as "routine" cost between $1600 and $1800 > per test and usually are conducted on a yearly basis. Not to mention CT > scans, blood work, office visits, etc. > > PD medications, if one is fortunate enough to have insurance, costs on > average $100 - $200 per month per PWP. This has left many, not all, with PD > in the terrible predicament of choosing between food and medication. My > personal out of pocket expenses for medication was $360 per month for over 3 > years. > > The cost of my DBS was $34,000.00..... The cost of my staph infection in the > brain due to nonsercomal infection was another $39,000.00. The cost of my > intensive care stay due to reaction of medications used to treat my staph > infection was another $29,000.00. I have had 2 more hospitalizations b/c of > problems resulting directly from the mis-diagnosis by learned MDS's which > resulted in my having the DBS to begin with. > > If you look at the expenses that I personally along with my husband have > shelled out, now knowing thanks to the F-DOPA and FDG PET scans that I do > not have PD or a PD+ disorder, can you still recommend NOT having the test? > How many others suffer needlessly or should be told that no answer is > available until autopsy when this simply is not true? What is the cost of > peace of mind? > > With all of this in mind, can you still say that the $500 cost difference, > on average, is worth NOT having a F-DOPA PET scan? Please do not tell me > that I am the exception. Using your numbers, "90% of the time a neurologist > trained in pd can make the diagnose with accuracy as verified by post mortem > examination and pet scans are not necessary" IF 10% of patients are > misdiagnosed and found NOT to have PD upon autopsy.... what is the $ amount > that is spent caring for these people? Medications, doctors expenses, > hospitalizations, emotional derailment, complications, surgeries that are > suppose to help, durable medical equipment, employment loss, etc. Surely > you cannot justify this when a definitative test is available. > > In giving recommendations to those newly diagnosed and the old "pro's" with > PD and PD+ disorders, wouldn't the bottom line be much more cost effective > dollar wise and emotional wise if the MRI's were put aside as the old way of > doing things and the PET scans became the new norm? > > And, several insurance companies DO pay for PET scans. CIGNA does, Blue > Cross/Blue Shield does, and I have been told that Medicaid in CA does. If > we as a group would have known that this test does exist, wouldn't lobbying > our insurance companies with these facts be far less costly than continuing > to pay for doing things the "traditional" way. > > I have been to Washington D.C., have lobbied heart and soul for over 3 years > for research and $ to find the cause and find the cure but I am appalled > that those who suffer with these diseases have been cruely mis-informed that > autopsy is the only thing that will provide an answer. Why provide those > suffering with a second class ticket when a first class ticket is available. > > I apologise if I have offended you. I have nothing but the utmost respect > for you and have followed your advice for over 3 years. But, on the point > of PET scans, I cannot disagree with you any more passionatly that I can > stop passionatly fighting for a cure for those that do suffer. > > Sincerely, > Deborah L. 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