Hi! What bothers me in this story is that even this meeting was funded by Novartis Pharma AG and Orion Corporation Orion Pharma. Are these the companies that manufacture L-dopa? All these physicians got together and have concluded that levodopa is not harmful to neurons. Unfortunately, most of the scientific facts are determined by general consensus based on the available evidence at that time. That is the nature of the beast. This reminds me of something else that happened in 1982 in my field. All the experts in the field of cancer biology got together and declared that a cancer cell is born via mitosis of genetically damaged cell and gives rise to "transformed focus formation in vitro" and that the same procedure is involved in the tumorigenesis in vivo. Till today this is the gospel in cancer biology and all the drugs are developed against mitotic cell division, which ends up resulting in undesirable side effects of chemo such as falling of hairs etc. I know for a fact that this is not true. Cancer originates by a totally heretofore unknown mechanism which I call NEOSIS, a novel type of cell division which is involved in tumorigenesis, tumor progression into malignant state and recurrence of reistant tumors after genotoxin-based anti-tumor therapy. I have decided to devote the rest of my life to eliminate this misconception in cancer biology. But, I find fighting against the establishment is not that easy. On top of that now I have to worry about my PD. Even Dr. Lieberman says conflicting things. One day he says Levodopa is not toxic to neurons. Another day, he says, that the trick is levodopa should be taken in smaller doses to avoid diskenesia. The question, then, that begs itself is: What does low dose l-dopa do? Does it just delay the onset of dyskenisia such that the patient dies of other reasons before diskenesia develops (Is the reason why sinemet can be given to older PD patients and not to the young onset PD patients?) or low dose L-dopa completely eliminates theonset of diskenesia no matter how long you take? Therefore, obviously there is some damage to neurons caused by levodopa. I am quoting from a recent article by Misu et al., "Is DOPA a neurotransmiter?" pubished in Trends in Pharmacological Sciences, Vol. 23, No. 6, June 2002, pp. 262-267, without going into the nitty gritty of the issues discussed the concuding statement says: "Levodopa might release undetectable but functioning glutamate from the seondary neurons .... In addition, leovodopa releases vesicular glutamate from striata to elicit autooxidation-irrelevant neuronal death. ...levodopa....might accelerate neuronal degeneration, particularly in progressive stages of the disease". Another issue has been nagging me for quite sometime. This might be a good opportunity to bring this out openly, despite the risk of being labelled "a fool". Often a foollish question yields some phenomenal answers that might enlighten us. It is claimed by levodopoogists that the introduction of levodopa has resulted in the increase in the survival of PD patients. The belief is so strong that they even go to the extent of calling that anybody that does not want to take levodopa is a fool. I am not sure how far this is true. It is an accepted fact that L-dopa does not retard the progression of the disease; in fact the opposite might be true. Then how does one explain the claim that the introductionof L-dopa has increased the longevity of the patients, although it is true that PD patients live longer since then. Is there any double blind study to prove that L-dopa is solely responsible for the increase in longevity or are the other N number of nutritional supplements such as anti-oxidants and vitamins etc that we all PWP desparately take on the faint hope that these might be helpful in retarding the progression of the disease, might really be one of the contributing factors in the increase in longevity? All I have learned in the past year since my diagnosis of PD, is that L-dopa is a temporary symptomatic relief of the symptoms of PD. You don't have much choice than to increase the dose as the disease progresses and if you do so, be ready for its ill effects. Pleae correct me if I am wrong. Please pardon me for taking too much of your time. Raj [log in to unmask] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn