Hi Margaret, I have some suggestions for gathering numbers, as well as other types of evidence, to measure writing centre success, though these are suggestions for the future, rather than for retrieving past information. At the UCFV writing centre, we have a Microsoft Excel database which measures, among other things, numbers of users and frequency of visits by repeat and regular users. Before each (and every) consultation, we have students fill out a form which asks what they seek when they visit the centre and records their characterizations of their writing assignments, as well as the disciplines in which they are writing. This allows for all kinds of explorations in addition to offering statistical "proof." It allows us to measure not only how many students are using the centre per term or fiscal year, but what kinds of writing tasks are being discussed, what disciplines are recurring or absent, and what kinds of students are using the centre (ie. majors, year of program etc). In addition, it could allow us to track individual students' use of the centre. These kinds of data would be even more instructive when coupled with interviews and personal testimony. (ie. we could track students' use over four years to examine not only frequency of visits, but also the ways in which they are representing their writing needs and their writing tasks. Put with students' comments about their progress, some interesting things would likely be revealed.) I'm not sure if this helps for your purposes now, but the need for numbers might prompt adminstrators to give you money to set up such databases in order to measure success in these ways. Dana Landry -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] For the list archives and information about the organization, its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-