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Thanks, Jo-Ann, I think my point that the public needs to know if we are to get help has been missed it was not only to voice my complaints....the public loves heros and happy endings. People outside the List need to hear Joan and Carole, not just us. also, I am not trying to invallidate anyone else's interpretation of this experience. I just have not found it's redeeming value. I think we all wish to see meaning in our lives. I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to die as I get worse, I have no help. Am trying to outlive my dog so he doesn't have to go back to the Pound. One-handed, Ray ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn