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I have been reading the follow up to the original post. I have to admit that I found you one amazing and accepting human being Katie. I think I do agree with Ray in this case however. I will probably take a lot of flak from many on this list once I say how I feel. I will not disagree with those that wish or need to think that *God won't give me anything that I can not carry*. I think that it is a toss of the dice what happens when it is a physical condition that one couldn't prevent. I think too, that human beings need to believe that what ever happens is Gods will or be able to justify the whys of our condition in saying we are that strong. There isn't any right way or wrong. It is a coping mechanism which is how some can face their frailties and to others a need to say why me or to rage. I think all methods must work for the many that need some way to get up in the morning and face the day. I know how it feels Ray to have someone you know and care about be murdered. One never really gets over it no matter how many years. You never quit asking why? Audrey Friend of aussie pwp John dx 1993 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn