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Audrey, this is why I would like the option of assisted suicide. Some of these concentration camps may be ok and there are actually some people who like "assisted living" at different levels, giving up all their worldly possessions, which granted we can't take with us, but to anyone who suggests this to me, I have to ask IS THIS WHAT YOU WOULD WANT FOR YOURSELF OR DO YOU THINK IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN TO YOU?? It is a terrible problem for all concerned. My Dad's experinces were nightmares, skin torn off his arms, theft, etc. he had 3 or 4 when my Mom got worn out, but he finally died at home. I could not get another teaching job to move to help, plus I never fully recovered from cancer. My brother, well, he had/has a life. My dad begged him to get him out. Ray ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn