Ray: I agree with you fully. The whole speech was full of ideology and nothing that I did not expect. He brushwed away the whoel issue of cloning and stem cell research wthout even attempting to define both in one or two sentences. The statement was so cold and inconsiderate I could not believe it. Most of the time, he sounded like a puppet reading something written by somebody else, without anhy emotinal commitment. I could partly agree with him on issues of Iraq, assuming that his statements are correct. The rest was jst partisan ideology. I do not expect much from this government by way of relief for us in the near future. Sorry, guys! That is my take. I understand that in Canada, some lady in Toronto has come up with a method to raise stem cells from skin cells. I understand she has received a lot of money to conduct her research. As far I can see, that is the only hope we have. But, if even that is brushed away in the name of banning stem cell research, then God help us. This is a tragic day for science. Raj [log in to unmask] *************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn