Since I am actually studying Tufte in one of my classes, I'll add my two cents. As far as I understand, Tufte is most concerned with avoiding wasted ink. In other words, every drop of ink must contribute to the data display. In his book called "The Visualy Display of Quantitative Information," Tufte denounces pie charts and decorative graphs (e.g. 3D, unnecessary color, etc.) because they contribute nothing to additional data, and they are often interfere with accurate perception. His idea of beauty (in data display) comes from data density. He particularly praises a map (which contains graph within them) which displays thousands of pieces of information in a limited space. Given his approach to data display, it shouldn't be surprising that Tufte doesn't like Power Point (especially ones with elaborate decorative background colors, images, etc. because they don't contribute to additional information.) But again, when I asked my students what a good lecture is, many of them argued that it should be a power point with a lot of colors, and the lecturer should make lots of jokes that have nothing to do with the topic just to entertain them. _____________________________________ Tosh Tachino, M.A., B.A. Honors Ph.D. Student, Iowa State University E-mail: [log in to unmask] http://www.public.iastate.edu/~tosh/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] For the list archives and information about the organization, its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-