--On Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:17 PM -0700 Doug Brent <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > This is the most interesting discussion I've seen on CASLL in years! > > It seems to me that Sandy has it exactly right. Tufte seems to be > arguing that the medium creates the message absolutely, but I don't > think that even McLuhan would agree that we are helpless in the power of > a medium. He only says that we are helpless if we don't understand the > medium. Yes; I really loved the link Jamie sent with the ppt presentation from the two guys who didn't get their room at the Doubletree . . . (aside: I forwarded it to 1,000 of my closest friends and got *more mail* because of that forward than anything else I've spammed people with). I thought it was hilarious, but beyond that, I thought it was really competent. It would be hard to argue that they didn't have connections between their ideas; I loved the way they used titles to make those connections. And I loved the use of graphics -- they understood very well, I thought, that graphics in a presentation are there for impact, not for total factual accuracy. And the whole thing, although delivered to us as a written text, evoked a sense of oral presentation. (Most Powerpoint presentations read like flat outlines; they aren't nearly so evocative.) The sequencing and ordering of elements was perfect. Jamie billed that presentation as one that "subverted" the genre, but I didn't find it subversive, exactly. I thought it really pointed up the strengths of the medium. I actually learned quite a bit about how to use ppt from reading it. Marcy =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Marcy Bauman Media Consultant College of Pharmacy University of Michigan 734-647-2227 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] For the list archives and information about the organization, its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-