On 23 Jan 2004 at 9:00, Brightline wrote: Hi Carrie: What does this mean? "Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" Can you please translate this for me? Thanks. Raj * * * Carrie and Raj, you have ignited my curiousity ... GOOGLE reveals... The Romans had a phase: "Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" which is often translated as "Who Guards the Guards", but more accurately should read "Who watches the watchmen?" http://www.it-director.com/article.php?articleid=1127 Juvenal (D. Iunius Iuvenalis) Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Satires, VI.347-8) But who will guard the guardians themselves? http://www.forumromanum.org/latin/quotations.html cheers ..... murray ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn