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This entire discussion board has lost so much of its usefulness and strayed from its main mission of providing support, comfort and thoughtful suggestions to all who need help. I must admit that I have participated in the political discussions in what I perceived as a constructive manner. The problem is others may not perceive it that way. There is just no way around it. The board gets lost in discussions of bashing the president, peoples long accepted religious beliefs and even nationalism. This is just no the place for any of that not even announcements of "Call your congressman before he destroys all of us." Political discussions do get things done. There is always a time and place for them. There is also a time and place for just plain support, facts about the disease and encouragement. The place for support is this board. The place for political discussions is somewhere else. I have learned this the hard way, in my personal life. I am asking for someone to create a board specifically for political discussion and political actions for PD. That board would be visited by people who are interested and could be a place to get things done. There could be periodic references to that board, not specifics just pointers to the board posted here. I am asking that members of this board participate in the other board for political discussions no matter how minor they may seem and respect the mission and goals of this board. Doctor Fink has provided a voice of reason, compassion and thoughtfulness to this board for some time. He should be permitted to do so in an atmosphere where he is not forced or coerced into taking or justifying political positions on anything most of all this disease. Are there any out there with so much political passion and commitment that they are willing to take the challenge of setting up a political action and discussion board and respecting the non-political, welcome and support for all mission of this board? From the bottom of my heart I hope there is someone. By channeling your passion you would do more good than by discussing politics on this board and alienating many. Respectfully Frank cg. Teri 52/47/40 15024 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rayilyn Brown" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:05 PM Subject: RePresidential powers/Fink > Dr. Fink, > thank you for pointing out that it is certainly the job of Congress to make > the laws. The President can sign or veto legislation and it can be passed with > greater numbers over his veto. > > My students had to be pried away from their belief that the President makes > the laws. However, the President does set policy and propose laws, for which > he uses his political abilities and allies to get passed . > > As Greg has correctly pointed out there are such things as "Executive > Orders" - by Executive Order I understand that Clinton rescinded this ban on stem > cell research, then Bush revived it. Clinton had to contend with a Republican > Congress, Bush has all 3 branches of the government, so he should be able to > get what he wants. Obviously, he does not want stem cell research, I heard > him say "We must not create life to destroy it", etc., etc. I think Bush's > positions are well known. Now we are hearing the positions of the Democratic > candidates for President. If we have a strong President and a weak Congress, or > vice versa, people still are interested in the President's position on issues > like abortion, where Bush is trying to pack the courts with right wing judges. > > The powers of the 3 branches of government were intended to balance each > other, but they don't always do that. > > I have a question for Bush and you, Dr. Fink, just whose life am I taking if > I use SCNT an unfertilized egg and my own DNA to cure my Parkinson's Disease? > > I very definitely do not believe that non-existent entities, the "preborn" > blastocysts, cells, are people. I can understand people not wanting to harvest > fetuses for their body parts, but these proposed laws make that illegal. I > have great and deep anger against George W. Bush and his friends for standing in > the way of medical research. > > You may think this is selfish of me, that like Chris Reeve, it's just my > tough luck and I should just wait til something comes along that is acceptable to > you and others who do not have PD, but I think it is a crime against humanity > to block research, when scientists think it may hold promise of cures. Just > think how much cheaper cures would be than the current medical and prescription > drug mess. > > Ray > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn