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I have to say I don't find this entirely convincing as an explanation, given the wording that Jim has quoted..... I'm not doubting the existence of mock-saints (though I haven't seen one in this kind of context so far), just that this is a reference to one.... I am eager to see the actual account book on this one! AAY nm wrote: > > Jim-- > > Sorry to get in on this so late. I don't think this is a real > saint. The Bower is the tip-off. I suggested in my book that this is a > summer lord of some kind and that the bower refers to the structure that > summer lords and ladies used to hold their court. He's a faux saint. > There's a wonderful recent book by my colleague Jacques Merceron about > French faux saints. Don't have the title at hand, but it can be easily > accessed through his name (title begins, I think, Dictionnaire). The > French seem cleverer at this sort of drollerie than the English as best I > can tell. > > Larry > > On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, James Stokes wrote: > > > Is anyone on the list able to shed light on the name Holy John of Bower, > > which appears in the records of Grimsby, Lincolnshire? Is it likely to > > refer to John the Baptist, or is there another saint of that particular > > name who has eluded my best efforts to identify him? > > Many, many thanks for any light cast into this resistant little > > darkness. > > Jim Stokes > > -- Abigail Ann Young (Dr), Associate Editor/ Records of Early English Drama/ Victoria College/ 150 Charles Street W/ Toronto Ontario Canada Phone (416) 585-4504/ FAX (416) 813-4093/ [log in to unmask] List-owner of REED-L <http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~reed/reed-l.html> http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~reed/reed.html => REED's home page http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~reed/stage.html => our theatre resource page http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~young => my home page