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sorry mr. fink..
    but i tend to disagree with you and disagree often.....
                  thank god we have expanded outside the limited, white,
narrow and provincial definition of "marriage" that you have
     discussed on these pages...
                         and you may also want to look at how 'Family" has
been
redefined in our incredible amazing multicultural gay, lesbian. BI and het
world...it's a big diverse world,  have you noticed?
it not just about
                  dad plus mom and a kidster.....
        and
        hey..if you want to take a random sample...about "marriage"....
"family"
   just open your eyes and look around you in Berkley town....
                                 maybe your horizons will expand,  maybe
not?
and for additional information
   check out
www.hrc.org


    peace
   tess owens

        ----- Original Message -----
From: Robert A. Fink, M. D. <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: Finally a political discussion with respect


> On 29 Jan 2004 at 8:35, Hilary R. Blue wrote:
>
> > But, don't call their "union"
> > > marriage, please.
> >
> >
> >
> >                                 WHY NOT?
>
> Because "marriage" is an institution which is based on heterosexuality and
the
> producing and raising of children.  Another word for "marriage" is
> "matrimony", and you can't have "matrimony" without a merging of egg and
> sperm in order to produce a child.
>
> Best,
>
> Bob
>
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