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I, am in no way attempting to influence anybody. This just came up on another site - at first I thought it was this one - and thought some of you might be interested, since the question under discussion is an important one, even tho we can't answer it. Ray, of the abnormal mind ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn