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I understand PIE to stand for Parkinson's Information Exchange - therefore if the subject is not related to Parkinsons it is not appropriate - I also understand that spiritual, emotional, physical, mental, medical, psychological, etc. are all related to needed PARKINSONS INFORMATION... I have been involved with this forum for several years off and on and cannot be interacting often because of other demands in my life - but I never remember it being so "bogged down" in mannerism and time spent fruitlessly havng contentions over what ISN'T right. I am confident that if people will focus on concise information involving what IS or COULD BE right, and help each other in their effort of finding a remedy so people don't have to live such miserably difficult lives, this list would serve a much more meaningful purpose Much of the ongoing discussions including political, emotional, and social issues could be done directly off list and not diminish the list's PURPOSE one bit - in fact it would fulfill the word ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn EXCHANGE....Marie Judd