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thnks, DAvid, I'll need it as I tore open my affected leg in a fall into my coffee table. It looks worse than it is -bloody at first, but now bruised. I'm wondering how the needle will feel going into the big bruise. Oh well, it's something different to suffer. Ray ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn