Thanks Pat! I have located the text on line -- it was indeed on EBSCO so I didn't have to hie my body over to the physical library -- and will check out the links. Thanks to everyone else too -- keep 'em coming. Doug psaunders wrote: >Hello Doug, >I too have recently had cause to consider the issue of mass testing methods > >of literacy/writing competance and have found some help in an article >written by Casey Jones : "The Relationship Between Writing Centers and >Improvement in Writing Ability: An Assessment of the Literature" >_Education_Vol. 122 No.1. I found access to this article in full text PDF >format on-line, but no longer remember where (possibly EBSCO). (it is worth >tracking down as it is couched in terms likely to be meaningful to those who > >put a good deal of faith in quantative testing-if you can't locate it or the > >journal easily I would be willing to fax it to you. ). I also found useful >the >articles found at the following links: >http://wac.colostate.edu/llad/v3n2/olds.pdf >http://wac.colostate.edu/journal/vol5/lord.pdf >http://wac.colostate.edu/llad/v6n1/carter.pdf >http://wac.colostate.edu/llad/v6n1/carson.pdf > >Hope this is helpful, >Pat > >Doug Brent wrote: > > > >>A bit of a plea for help here. >> >>I keep looking for literature that addresses the larger philosophical >>and pedagogical issues surrounding mass writing competence testing. I >>find that most of the literature seems to be written by people who more >>or less approve of competence testing and want to discuss how it can be >>improved or to share war stories. There seems to be a fairly large camp >>of sentiment that suggests that the entire enterprise of mass competence >>testing is flawed for a number of reasons,. the most common being that >>it fails to take account of what most of us believe about writing being >>centred in discourse communities, recursive, social, messy, and all >>those things that no "competence test" can by its nature measure. But >>as far as I can see (after searching ERIC, COMPILE, etc), most of this >>material is "anecdotal," ie. argued on listserves like CASLL but seldom >>shared in peer-reviewed papers. The people who have serious doubts >>about competence testing seem to keep it to themselves, working against >>these tests at home when they can but seldom writing seriously about >>their misgivings, perhaps because they aren't interested in writing >>about something they don't believe in. >> >>Or do they? It seems to me that there was a thread on CASLL a long >>while ago that was originated by the McGill crowd when they were trying >>to fend off competence testing. Anthony, I think it was, asked whether >>anyone had any literature on the subject that they could share. I don't >>remember if any emerged, though plenty of discussion ensued. >> >>Now I'd like to ask again. Does anyone have any references to published >>work on the larger issue of whether we should test (not just how we >>should test)? I'm particularly interested in the uneasy relationship >>between competence testing and WAC, a subject which (not >>co-incidentally) I want to address for my presentation at the CCCC >>Canadian Caucus. (OK, you're right, I'm trying to shore up my anecdotal >>resentation with a little more reference to published literature.) >> >>Thanks! >> >>Doug >> >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >> To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to >> [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, >> write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] >> >>For the list archives and information about the organization, >> its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to >> http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >> >> > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to > [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, > write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] > >For the list archives and information about the organization, > its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to > http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > -- Dr. Doug Brent Associate Dean (Academic) Faculty of Communication and Culture, University of Calgary 2500 University Drive N.W. Calgary, Alberta, Canada T2N 1N4 Voice: (403) 220-5458 Fax: (403) 282-6716 http://www.ucalgary.ca/~dabrent -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] For the list archives and information about the organization, its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-