A bit of a plea for help here. I keep looking for literature that addresses the larger philosophical and pedagogical issues surrounding mass writing competence testing. I find that most of the literature seems to be written by people who more or less approve of competence testing and want to discuss how it can be improved or to share war stories. There seems to be a fairly large camp of sentiment that suggests that the entire enterprise of mass competence testing is flawed for a number of reasons,. the most common being that it fails to take account of what most of us believe about writing being centred in discourse communities, recursive, social, messy, and all those things that no "competence test" can by its nature measure. But as far as I can see (after searching ERIC, COMPILE, etc), most of this material is "anecdotal," ie. argued on listserves like CASLL but seldom shared in peer-reviewed papers. The people who have serious doubts about competence testing seem to keep it to themselves, working against these tests at home when they can but seldom writing seriously about their misgivings, perhaps because they aren't interested in writing about something they don't believe in. Or do they? It seems to me that there was a thread on CASLL a long while ago that was originated by the McGill crowd when they were trying to fend off competence testing. Anthony, I think it was, asked whether anyone had any literature on the subject that they could share. I don't remember if any emerged, though plenty of discussion ensued. Now I'd like to ask again. Does anyone have any references to published work on the larger issue of whether we should test (not just how we should test)? I'm particularly interested in the uneasy relationship between competence testing and WAC, a subject which (not co-incidentally) I want to address for my presentation at the CCCC Canadian Caucus. (OK, you're right, I'm trying to shore up my anecdotal resentation with a little more reference to published literature.) Thanks! Doug -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] For the list archives and information about the organization, its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-