----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan B. Fine" <[log in to unmask]> To: "Parkinson's Information Exchange Network" <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 2:46 PM Subject: Re: I need help. I need hope. I need guidance on dealing with this terrible disease. > Frank: I do believe you are adding more fuel to the so-called fire you are > accusing others of making. There is not a person involved in this and other > related list servs who does not want a cure, support and information that > can help them manage today and work towards a better future for those with > PD and their caregivers. What we don't need are repititous lectures on how > to conduct ourselves - particularly when some of the info you are offended > by is relevent to the needs and future of those with PD. You need not > agree - nor do I - but let's not lock ourselves into a box and try to censor > one another. Let's move on - with good will - and more tolerance for the > thoughts and concerns of others. > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "FrankandTeri" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 5:40 AM > Subject: I need help. I need hope. I need guidance on dealing with this > terrible disease. > > > > I need help. I need hope. I need guidance on dealing with this terrible > > disease. > > > > I don't need political opinions. > > I don't need religious views. > > I don't want to see people I care about and respect insulted. > > I don't want to see anyone's religious, political and personal views > > depicted as evil. > > > > I will seek the help and understanding of all here. > > I will provide the same to all regardless of their race, economic class, > > occupation, age, political or religious beliefs. > > > > It amazes me that Murray Charters can effectively post many articles > > regarding progress and failures and roadblocks and breakthroughs, many of > > which are a bit unflattering to the political leadership, and not wind up > in > > the middle of a political discussion. After not much thought I came up > with > > the answer. Murray posts the entire article many of which are from > > respected organizations. He does so without degrading, insulting and > > negative political commentary. Of course my opinion is many of these > > articles already reflect the political bias of the writers but that's > life. > > The writers rarely make obviously insulting judgment calls. They, for the > > most part, provide some unbiased background and then some quotes from > people > > interviewed. When the people interviewed are political candidates we > expect > > political rhetoric from them. Please note those candidates are not > posting > > their rhetoric on this board. Because of this Murray handles these > delicate > > subjects in a respectful manner. Most of the posts are informational and > on > > target and of PD interest... > > > > Cheers to Murray. Not sure of his political opinions, not sure of his > > religious beliefs and not sure of his education but I do know Murray does > > not try let his personal beliefs overshadow what he has taken on as a > > mission. Murray try's to provide Hope, Help and Guidance through his > > complete compilations and posting on this board of on subject articles of > > interest to the PD community. > > > > Iraq, "Clinton Blow jobs", Haiti, Snake Pits, Venom, Forked tongues, > > accusations of lies, accusations of declaring war on all Americans, > > comparing the president to a terrorist, degrading peoples religious > beliefs > > even when they are not posted, insulting people who struggle with moral > > dilemmas and more, have no legitimate purpose for posting here. If you > have > > those views they make great conversation among friends and enemy's. They > > serve to divide and get your passions up. They make you feel better when > > you voice them but they make you feel better at the expense of others. > > > > When people feel they must stand out from the crowd and feel superior > there > > are two ways they typically go about that. The first is to proclaim they > > have a better way or they have the answer or they are faster, smarter, > > richer or prettier than others. That of course is kind of grade school > > stuff. The other is to knock everyone else around them down by insulting, > > degrading, declaring the other person is wrong, ugly, stupid or even of > the > > wrong race, religion or political party. I'll take the first any time. > By > > declaring that you have a great idea and then trying to get people to join > > you in a positive manner to support you will unite people not divide them. > > When you divide them you will always reduce your chances for success even > if > > it turns out were right. > > > > I have not seen a single posting declaring those who believe in abortion, > > human cloning, abortive stem cell research as evil people who will be the > > downfall of all mankind. I don't recall seeing any posts declaring > > President Clinton as the immoral scourge of the universe. Not one... Yet > it > > seems we seek people with different beliefs out and declare them the > source > > of our suffering. This does not serve to unite it serves to divide and > > declare them as unwanted and unworthy of our caring. Gandhi, Christ, > Mother > > Theresa, Buddha, the Pope, John F Kennedy and Martin Luther King would > never > > act in a way that served to divide and degrade. Each of these great > > leaders brought messages of hope unity and a better life for all. They > all > > recognized that to move forward they had to provide examples of leadership > > that would raise them above the crowd and bring the crowd with them not > tear > > down the crowd around them. They took unpopular chances and made a > > difference for all. They tried to bring everyone with them as they rose > > above the crowd. > > > > Peace and love to all. > > > > Frank > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn