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Carrie, In my Advanced Placement History classes argument was a requirement and a necessity for passing the AP exams. We had a great time matching wits and many students passed the College Board's exams, gaining college credit. And yes we evaluated presidents and their policies. One student described my class as "outrageous" but it was a compliment Ray ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn