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Jeff, I disagree with you. I have never been raped, a victim of incest, or pregnant, but I can't imagine making such a decision as an abortion for someone else. I don't think either one of us knows what we would do or want in that situation with all its ramifications. You being male and me an old ovarian cancer survivor female will never know. Ray, says "born alive" on my birth certificate, too bad. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn