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>  The embryo's in fertility clinics have already
> started on the journey to birth. 


Yes but after 5 days, it doesnīt even look like a tadpole. Just a minute blob 
without top nor bottom. Stem cells are not gathered from older embryos so it 
is no good talking about 5 month old fetuses who can be viable ( just).
 During in vitro fertilization, several eggs are fertilized, one reimplanted. 
The others are thrown away. They may as well be used for curing diseases. 
They donīt do any good in a garbage can.
Of course, one ca always argue about the purpose of in vitro fertilization.
Maryse

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