Thanks, Raj, for your voice of reason and intelligence. I am a philosophy minor and we had to consider ALL situations and conditions we could think of before developing an ethical position or philosophy of religion . It seems to me that opponents of SCNT and extra embryos from in vitro clinics for research are cherry picking what they want while we wait and get worse. Ray ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn